Re: AW: S85 not quite right !!

From: Bill Verzal (BVerzal_at_KOMATSUNA.COM)
Date: 06/30/03

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    I always thought it was:

    never set maxfree to less than (minfree+maxpgahead) * # CPUs

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    never set maxfree to less than minfree+maxpgahead

    so, set it to 128+64 and see if that changes something

                    -----Original Message-----
                    From: Spencer Johnson [mailto:Spencer.Johnson@2020LOG.COM]
                    Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 10:34 AM
                    To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU
                    Subject: Re: S85 not quite right !!

                    Thanks for replies Mark / Simon,

                    To answer some of your questions :

                    - Disks are 50% active on average is quite good as this
    means layout of database is good.

                    - Our vmtune settings are currently :

                    vmtune: current values:
                      -p -P -r -R -f -F
    -N -W
                    minperm maxperm minpgahead maxpgahead minfree maxfree
    pd_npages maxrandwrt
                     104855 209711 2 64 128 144
    524288 0

                      -M -w -k -c -b -B
    -u -l -d
                    maxpin npswarn npskill numclust numfsbufs hd_pbuf_cnt
    lvm_bufcnt lrubucket defps
                    1677691 100608 25152 1 93 1584
    9 131072 1

                            -s -n -S -L
    -g -h
                    sync_release_ilock nokilluid v_pinshm lgpg_regions
    lgpg_size strict_maxperm
                            0 0 0 0
    0 0

                     -t
                    maxclient
                    1676868

                    number of valid memory pages = 2097113 maxperm=10.0% of
    real memory
                    maximum pinable=80.0% of real memory minperm=5.0% of
    real memory
                    number of file memory pages = 942297 numperm=44.9% of
    real memory

                    number of compressed memory pages = 0 compressed=0.0% of
    real memory
                    number of client memory pages = 0 numclient=0.0% of
    real memory
                    # of remote pgs sched-pageout = 0 maxclient=80.0% of
    real memory

                    -------- IBM have also suggest turning sync_release_ilock
    (s) to 1 and strict_maxperm (h) to 1.

                    I will be shortly upgrading our Dev server to ML 11, will
    let you know how I get on.

                    Spencer

                            -----Original Message-----
                            From: Green, Simon
    [mailto:Simon.Green@EU.ALTRIA.COM]
                            Sent: 30 June 2003 15:29
                            To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU
                            Subject: Re: S85 not quite right !!

                            The only problems I have experienced - other than
    an actual shortage of resources - have been due to the wrong vmtune
    settings. (And remember that the default settings are NOT good for a
    database.)
                            It's worth considering AIO as well, but I've never
    had a problem with that.

                            The sort of settings I use are:
                            /usr/samples/kernel/vmtune -p3 -P8 -b400

                            That's taken from an 8-way S7A with 8GB memory,
    running SAP with a 750GB database. It's quite busy, but has almost no
    paging. It's based on our experience and recommendations from SAP.

                            If you don't have something similar - particularly
    the -p/-P - then take care of that before tackling anything else.

                            When you say the disks are "only 50% busy" what do
    you mean? If that's either I/O Wait or % active then I'd say it's on the
    high side. What sort of disk subsystem do you have?

                            Simon Green
                            Altria ITSC Europe Ltd

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                                    -----Original Message-----
                                    From: Spencer Johnson
    [mailto:Spencer.Johnson@2020LOG.COM]
                                    Sent: 30 June 2003 14:49
                                    To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU
                                    Subject: S85 not quite right !!

                                    Hi list,

                                    I have a slight problem / issue, this is
    related to an 7017-S85 server, connected to F20 ESS. The server is a 6W - 8
    GB RAM running Oracle 8.1.7.4 with
                                    database instance of approx. 1 TB.

                                    The problem is that most operations (coping
    files, etc) cause the system to page and send the CPU's into Wait state
    constantly, I have logged a call with IBM and they have
                                    come back with a few suggestions of
    changing vmtune parameters.

                                    Oracle is tuned to allow for 6W processors
    but I feel that the O/S is being restricted by something. The disks do not
    perform that much work (only 50% busy at max).

                                    The O/S is currently at 4.3.3 ML 10, but am
    considering going to ML 11.

                                    Has anyone out there had similar
    experiences and how have they been overcome.

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