Re: install software

From: Adams Kevin J (kevin.adams_at_PHS.COM)
Date: 10/07/04

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To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU

    You might have a look at:

    http://www.bullfreeware.com/download/aix43/bull.mklpp-1.2.9.0.exe

    or

    http://www.bullfreeware.com/download/contrib/lppbuild-2.1.0.0.exe

    Haven't used them but might be worth a look.

    Kevin Adams

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    From: IBM AIX Discussion List [mailto:aix-l@Princeton.EDU] On Behalf Of
    JOSEPH KREMBLAS
    Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:34 AM
    To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU
    Subject: Re: [aix-l] install software

    Praveen,

            Thank you for your kinds words. I don't know exactly when I
    acquired such knowledge but I know that it probably had something to do
    with failed 'installp' installations in times of yore, and I was hungry
    to understand the "inner" workings of 'installp' and because of my
    previous discipline as a COBOL/BASIC programmer/analyst (please don't
    laugh when I say COBOL or BASIC--I had to start somewhere and I like
    both languages very much and I wish I was still programming), I was
    naturally inclined to consult the "programmer's manual". I also believe
    such knowledge was acquired when a developer was reading his/her AIX
    programming book and relied on me to answer detailed questions
    concerning LPP packaging; answers that I didn't have, because I simply
    didn't know. Is it unusual for an AIX administrator to try to
    understand the inner workings of his/her system? The more you know
    about your system the better off you are, especially when it comes to
    working with developers and becoming a performance analyst.

            The downfall of spending too much time with LPP packaging is
    that it is only applicable to AIX, and none other UNIX systems. So
    there's a question of portability, especially if you have a hybrid UNIX
    environment. LPP packaging excited me when I looked into it, because it
    surely helped control and support the change management process, to
    verify everything, and gave me the ability to "back out" a change if
    necessary, and "roll back" to the previous version should the occasion
    arise. There are numerous gems to be found by the AIX administrator in
    LPP packaging as well as politics that go in hand with portability.

            I apologize for making this long-winded response.

            I would venture to say that you're right in reaching the
    conclusion you have about the third party.

            Good day.

                    --joseph

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    From: IBM AIX Discussion List [mailto:aix-l@Princeton.EDU] On Behalf Of
    Kumar, Praveen (cahoot)
    Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:21 AM
    To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU
    Subject: Re: install software

    Joseph,

    Great !!! Thanks for the information. But how come you have such a vast
    knowledge of all such things which are not usual. Anyway thank you very
    much.

    So as you said the third party who is managing the servers would have
    created the whole software kit and deployed on the server.

    Cheers
    Praveen

    -----Original Message-----
    From: JOSEPH KREMBLAS [mailto:JKREMBLAS@REDHEARTGIFTS.COM]
    Sent: 07 October 2004 16:00
    To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU
    Subject: Re: install software

    Praveen,

            The short answer is if the 3rd party product isn't designed to
    be installed by 'installp,' then the product won't be registered in the
    appropriate ODM files, so upon execution of 'lslpp,' you won't see the
    software in its output.

            For the system in which you've seen a managed services company's
    name as the fileset name, I would guess that they packaged their product
    pursuant to the instructions given in Chapter 20 entitled "Packing
    Software for Installation" in the "General Programming Concepts: Writing
    and Debugging Programs" book.

            I hope this helps.

                    --joseph

    -----Original Message-----
    From: IBM AIX Discussion List [mailto:aix-l@Princeton.EDU] On Behalf Of
    Kumar, Praveen (cahoot)
    Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:30 AM
    To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU
    Subject: install software

    Hi,

    If I have a third party software which is not specifically designed for
    AIX (What I mean by saying this is, the file format of the installation
    files is not in bff format.), and I want to install and wish to see this
    file set name in lslpp output, how do I achieve this.

    B'coz one of the system I have seen had a fileset that is customised for
    that server. The lslpp output on the server,had the managed services
    company's name as the fileset name.

    TIA
    Praveen

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