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Date:         Thu, 7 Oct 2004 14:07:56 -0500
To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU

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I've used them to build LPPs. It is really slick and easy-to-use.

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You might have a look at:

http://www.bullfreeware.com/download/aix43/bull.mklpp-1.2.9.0.exe

or

http://www.bullfreeware.com/download/contrib/lppbuild-2.1.0.0.exe

Haven't used them but might be worth a look.

Kevin Adams

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From: IBM AIX Discussion List [mailto:aix-l@Princeton.EDU] On Behalf Of
JOSEPH KREMBLAS
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:34 AM
To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU
Subject: Re: [aix-l] install software

Praveen,

        Thank you for your kinds words. I don't know exactly when I
acquired such knowledge but I know that it probably had something to do
with failed 'installp' installations in times of yore, and I was hungry
to understand the "inner" workings of 'installp' and because of my
previous discipline as a COBOL/BASIC programmer/analyst (please don't
laugh when I say COBOL or BASIC--I had to start somewhere and I like
both languages very much and I wish I was still programming), I was
naturally inclined to consult the "programmer's manual". I also believe
such knowledge was acquired when a developer was reading his/her AIX
programming book and relied on me to answer detailed questions
concerning LPP packaging; answers that I didn't have, because I simply
didn't know. Is it unusual for an AIX administrator to try to
understand the inner workings of his/her system? The more you know
about your system the better off you are, especially when it comes to
working with developers and becoming a performance analyst.

        The downfall of spending too much time with LPP packaging is
that it is only applicable to AIX, and none other UNIX systems. So
there's a question of portability, especially if you have a hybrid UNIX
environment. LPP packaging excited me when I looked into it, because it
surely helped control and support the change management process, to
verify everything, and gave me the ability to "back out" a change if
necessary, and "roll back" to the previous version should the occasion
arise. There are numerous gems to be found by the AIX administrator in
LPP packaging as well as politics that go in hand with portability.

        I apologize for making this long-winded response.

        I would venture to say that you're right in reaching the
conclusion you have about the third party.

        Good day.

                --joseph

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From: IBM AIX Discussion List [mailto:aix-l@Princeton.EDU] On Behalf Of
Kumar, Praveen (cahoot)
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:21 AM
To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU
Subject: Re: install software

Joseph,

Great !!! Thanks for the information. But how come you have such a vast
knowledge of all such things which are not usual. Anyway thank you very
much.

So as you said the third party who is managing the servers would have
created the whole software kit and deployed on the server.

Cheers
Praveen

-----Original Message-----
From: JOSEPH KREMBLAS [mailto:JKREMBLAS@REDHEARTGIFTS.COM]
Sent: 07 October 2004 16:00
To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU
Subject: Re: install software

Praveen,

        The short answer is if the 3rd party product isn't designed to
be installed by 'installp,' then the product won't be registered in the
appropriate ODM files, so upon execution of 'lslpp,' you won't see the
software in its output.

        For the system in which you've seen a managed services company's
name as the fileset name, I would guess that they packaged their product
pursuant to the instructions given in Chapter 20 entitled "Packing
Software for Installation" in the "General Programming Concepts: Writing
and Debugging Programs" book.

        I hope this helps.

                --joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM AIX Discussion List [mailto:aix-l@Princeton.EDU] On Behalf Of
Kumar, Praveen (cahoot)
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:30 AM
To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU
Subject: install software

Hi,

If I have a third party software which is not specifically designed for
AIX (What I mean by saying this is, the file format of the installation
files is not in bff format.), and I want to install and wish to see this
file set name in lslpp output, how do I achieve this.

B'coz one of the system I have seen had a fileset that is customised for
that server. The lslpp output on the server,had the managed services
company's name as the fileset name.

TIA
Praveen

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