Re: install software

From: Hans-Dieter Kutz (hdkutz_at_HDKUTZ.DE)
Date: 10/08/04

  • Next message: JOSEPH KREMBLAS: "Re: install software"
    Date:         Fri, 8 Oct 2004 16:20:18 +0200
    To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU
    
    

    Hello,
    why not use mkinstallp from package:
    <snip>
      File Fileset Type
      ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
      /usr/sbin/mkinstallp bos.adt.insttools File
    <snip>
    which comes with AIX 5.2 ML02 Install CD's.
    Very easy to handle.

    One bug:
    Do not try to package perl-Docs with mkinstallp.

    Cheers,
    ku

    On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 02:07:56PM -0500, Bill Verzal wrote:
    > I've used them to build LPPs. It is really slick and easy-to-use.
    >
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    > Adams Kevin J
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    > Re: install software
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    > 10/07/2004 01:47
    > PM
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    > You might have a look at:
    >
    > http://www.bullfreeware.com/download/aix43/bull.mklpp-1.2.9.0.exe
    >
    > or
    >
    > http://www.bullfreeware.com/download/contrib/lppbuild-2.1.0.0.exe
    >
    > Haven't used them but might be worth a look.
    >
    > Kevin Adams
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    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: IBM AIX Discussion List [mailto:aix-l@Princeton.EDU] On Behalf Of
    > JOSEPH KREMBLAS
    > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:34 AM
    > To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU
    > Subject: Re: [aix-l] install software
    >
    >
    > Praveen,
    >
    > Thank you for your kinds words. I don't know exactly when I
    > acquired such knowledge but I know that it probably had something to do
    > with failed 'installp' installations in times of yore, and I was hungry
    > to understand the "inner" workings of 'installp' and because of my
    > previous discipline as a COBOL/BASIC programmer/analyst (please don't
    > laugh when I say COBOL or BASIC--I had to start somewhere and I like
    > both languages very much and I wish I was still programming), I was
    > naturally inclined to consult the "programmer's manual". I also believe
    > such knowledge was acquired when a developer was reading his/her AIX
    > programming book and relied on me to answer detailed questions
    > concerning LPP packaging; answers that I didn't have, because I simply
    > didn't know. Is it unusual for an AIX administrator to try to
    > understand the inner workings of his/her system? The more you know
    > about your system the better off you are, especially when it comes to
    > working with developers and becoming a performance analyst.
    >
    > The downfall of spending too much time with LPP packaging is
    > that it is only applicable to AIX, and none other UNIX systems. So
    > there's a question of portability, especially if you have a hybrid UNIX
    > environment. LPP packaging excited me when I looked into it, because it
    > surely helped control and support the change management process, to
    > verify everything, and gave me the ability to "back out" a change if
    > necessary, and "roll back" to the previous version should the occasion
    > arise. There are numerous gems to be found by the AIX administrator in
    > LPP packaging as well as politics that go in hand with portability.
    >
    > I apologize for making this long-winded response.
    >
    > I would venture to say that you're right in reaching the
    > conclusion you have about the third party.
    >
    > Good day.
    >
    > --joseph
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: IBM AIX Discussion List [mailto:aix-l@Princeton.EDU] On Behalf Of
    > Kumar, Praveen (cahoot)
    > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:21 AM
    > To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU
    > Subject: Re: install software
    >
    >
    > Joseph,
    >
    > Great !!! Thanks for the information. But how come you have such a vast
    > knowledge of all such things which are not usual. Anyway thank you very
    > much.
    >
    > So as you said the third party who is managing the servers would have
    > created the whole software kit and deployed on the server.
    >
    > Cheers
    > Praveen
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: JOSEPH KREMBLAS [mailto:JKREMBLAS@REDHEARTGIFTS.COM]
    > Sent: 07 October 2004 16:00
    > To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU
    > Subject: Re: install software
    >
    >
    > Praveen,
    >
    > The short answer is if the 3rd party product isn't designed to
    > be installed by 'installp,' then the product won't be registered in the
    > appropriate ODM files, so upon execution of 'lslpp,' you won't see the
    > software in its output.
    >
    > For the system in which you've seen a managed services company's
    > name as the fileset name, I would guess that they packaged their product
    > pursuant to the instructions given in Chapter 20 entitled "Packing
    > Software for Installation" in the "General Programming Concepts: Writing
    > and Debugging Programs" book.
    >
    > I hope this helps.
    >
    > --joseph
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: IBM AIX Discussion List [mailto:aix-l@Princeton.EDU] On Behalf Of
    > Kumar, Praveen (cahoot)
    > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:30 AM
    > To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU
    > Subject: install software
    >
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > If I have a third party software which is not specifically designed for
    > AIX (What I mean by saying this is, the file format of the installation
    > files is not in bff format.), and I want to install and wish to see this
    > file set name in lslpp output, how do I achieve this.
    >
    > B'coz one of the system I have seen had a fileset that is customised for
    > that server. The lslpp output on the server,had the managed services
    > company's name as the fileset name.
    >
    > TIA
    > Praveen
    >
    >
    >
    >
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