Re: Things to remove from /rescue

From: David O'Brien (obrien_at_FreeBSD.org)
Date: 07/21/03

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    Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:23:14 -0700
To: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>

    On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 03:15:53PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
    >
    > On 19-Jul-2003 David O'Brien wrote:
    > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 02:51:47PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
    > >>
    > >> On 17-Jul-2003 David O'Brien wrote:
    > >> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 09:17:00AM -0700, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
    > >> >> whatever it is, certainly the purpose is not to show how good
    > >> >> a sysadmin is in using a knife's blade as a screwdriver and a fork
    > >> >> and a spoon. Heck, even swiss army knives have these extra
    > >> >> tools.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> I think that if something in /rescue can make the task faster
    > >> >> and less error prone, removing it to save 10-50k of disk space
    > >> >> would be a big mistake.
    > >> >
    > >> > You must not have seen my other email that listed other things than just
    > >> > disk space. If I did need to get to the Internet to get bits, what does
    > >> > ipfw do for me that "sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.enable=0" doesn't?
    > >>
    > >> This doesn't handle ipfilter. You've conveniently ignored that point it
    > >> seems.
    > >
    > > No, I have little ipfilter experience so I didn't speak to it. My
    > > language explicitly mentioned ipfw so I assumed readers would understand
    > > I was only addressing ipfw in that email.
    >
    > You've listed ipfilter tools such as ipnat, etc. on your list, so you
    > have "spoken to it". Perhaps you shouldn't blindly remove tools if
    > you don't know how they work?

    You seem to have another email in mind than the one you've been replying
    to. Please answer the question asked:

        If I did need to get to the Internet to get bits, what does ipfw do
        for me that "sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.enable=0" doesn't?

    the reader should assume the user is using ipfw and not another packet
    filter. 

    -- 
-- David  (obrien@FreeBSD.org)
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