Re: scheduler (sched_4bsd) questions

From: Stephan Uphoff (ups_at_tree.com)
Date: 09/25/04

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    To: Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
    Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 14:00:20 -0400
    
    

    On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 13:42, Stephan Uphoff wrote:
    > On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 21:20, Julian Elischer wrote:
    > > Stephan Uphoff wrote:
    > > >I am also stomped by the special case of adding a thread X with better
    > > >priority than the current thread to the runqueue if they belong to the
    > > >same ksegroup. In this case both kg_last_assigned and kg_avail_opennings
    > > >might be zero and setrunqueue() will not call sched_add().
    > > >Because of this it looks like the current thread will neither be
    > > >preempted not will TDF_NEEDRESCHED be set to force rescheduling at the
    > > >kernel boundary.
    > > >This situation should resolve itself at the next sched_switch - however
    > > >this might take a long time. (Especially if essential interrupt threads
    > > >are blocked by mutexes held by thread X)
    > > >
    > >
    > > you are correct. I am not yet preempting a running thread with a lesser
    > > priority if they are siblings
    > > (unless there is a slot available) Thsi is not becasue I don't want to
    > > do it, but simply because it has not been done yet..
    > > we did have NO preemption, so having "some" preemption is still better
    > > than where we were.
    > > Special case code to check curthread for a preemption could be done but
    > > at the moment the decision code for
    > > whether to preempt or not is in maybe_preempt() and I don't want to
    > > duplicate that. it is on th edrawing board though.
    > > The other thing is, that even if we should be able to preempt a running
    > > thread, there is no guarantee that it is on THIS
    > > CPU. It may be on another CPU and that gets nasty in a hurry.
    >
    > Yes .. this could get nasty.
    > This happens when the thread is bound to another cpu or someone changed
    > thr_concurrency - otherwise the current thread must be a sibling right ?
    >
    > Maybe something brutal like:
    > if ((curthread->td_ksegrp == kg) &&
    > (td->td_priority > curthread->td_priority))
    > curthread->td_flags |= TDF_NEEDRESCHED;
    >
    > in setrunqueue for
    > the else case of "if (kg->kg_avail_opennings > 0)"
    > would do the trick (without preemption) for the easy but probably more
    > common cases?
    >
    > Maybe I can find some time next week to think about a clean
    > fix. I find it always helpful having a small task in mind while reading
    > source code.

    I wrote a fix that should cover all cases.
    However I would like to test it a little bit before posting the patch.
    Is there any multi-threaded kernel torture program that you can
    recommend?

    Thanks

            Stephan

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