Re: Removing T/TCP and replacing it with something simpler

From: Andre Oppermann (andre_at_freebsd.org)
Date: 10/21/04

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    Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:05:01 +0200
To: Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>

    Julian Elischer wrote:
    >
    > Andre Oppermann wrote:
    >
    > >Mark Allman wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > >>>Thus after the removal of T/TCP for the reasons above I want to provide
    > >>>a work-alike replacement for T/TCP's functionality:
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>I haven't fully digested this yet. But, I'll voice my distaste for
    > >>implementing things that just seem to "Make Sense". That's a model that
    > >>has been used and is used by other operating systems and those of us who
    > >>watch packets can attest that things that "Make Sense" often don't and
    > >>likely would have benefitted by a bit more thought and a bit more
    > >>vetting. I would be happier if something like this were vetted out a
    > >>bit more (written up, digested by folks, etc.) before it went into
    > >>anything but someone's experimental kernel. Just my two cents.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    > >Sure. To make you sleep better it will be disabled by default (like
    > >T/TCP) and possibly even not compliled in by default (#ifdef'd). If
    > >enabled and compiled in it does not automatically enable itself for all
    > >and everything. The application has to enable it on the socket as well.
    > >
    > >A writeup will follow once I get there. I made this request before I
    > >start working on it to prevent to waste my time on it if people wanted
    > >to religiously stick to T/TCP.
    > >
    > >
    >
    > couldn't you do it with a spoofing interface?
    > i.e. tcp sessions going through get turned into something that loks like
    > ttcp
    > on the wire and converted back at teh other end?

    You failed the FUD test at the bottom of my email. 

    -- 
Andre
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