Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

From: Scott Long (scottl_at_freebsd.org)
Date: 12/23/04

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    Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:46:24 -0700
    To: Sam <sah@softcardsystems.com>
    
    

    Sam wrote:
    >> If we want to be taken seriously in the commercial world then we
    >> need to have the right image.
    >
    >
    > Look ma, a strawman!
    >
    > The concern you're addressing is the sort of thing distros
    > solved in the Linux world. Each typically has their own
    > "image," installer, system config style, etc. More importantly
    > for the "commercial world," though, they offer support and
    > certification.
    >
    > The image alone just isn't the problem. Or a problem at all,
    > I'd argue. Let's be honest -- if a ten-year-old made Beastie,
    > then a mentally challenged 3-year-old made Tux (and large
    > portions of the kernel, but I digress).
    >
    > Point being Johann, if the community rejects your work
    > for the core project you can still make your own distro
    > and release it. Give it a shot!
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Sam

    The distro - vs - core release relationship is one of BSD's greatest
    strengths and weaknesses. It's a strength because there is no 'distro
    hell' like there is in linux. When you download FreeBSD, you get the
    same FreeBSD as everyone else; there is no confusion over how the
    config files are layed out, no differences in the base utilities,
    everything compiles the same way, etc. That is a huge benefit. But at
    the same time, it makes it really hard for people to branch out and
    experiment in the same way that a linux distro can. FreeSBIE is a good
    example of this happening and working, but it definitely has hurdles.
    Variety and competition makes the whole stronger, and at times FreeBSD
    seems a bit in-bred. To address this, I'm playing with ideas for
    changing the nature of a FreeBSD 'release' a bit to make it easier for
    outfits like FreeSBIE to build on top of it. Hopefully I'll have
    something to show for this in 6.0.

    Scott
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