Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

From: Nikolas Britton (freebsd_at_nbritton.org)
Date: 12/24/04

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To: Chris <racerx@makeworld.com>

    Chris wrote:

    > Nikolas Britton wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>>> From a business perspective we look amateurish.
    >>>
    >>>
    >
    > I have held off thus far...
    >
    >>>
    >> I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an
    >> outsider the website and "Image" conveys a real lack of
    >> professionalism, which is not true.
    >
    >
    > No you don't - would you prefer multi-colored windows? A penguin? What?

    hmm?, *** no I hate penguins (esp Linux ones), there's nothing wrong
    with chucky

    > Are we looking into the geo-political correctness as in the like as
    > the NetBSD project took?

    No, just a better image in the enterprises and data centers of the world.

    >
    >> I'm looking at the start page for FreeBSD right now and here are the
    >> things I do not like about it (please don't be offended if I step on
    >> toe's and ego's, I am only trying to better FreeBSD):
    >
    >
    > Here we go - Let's just re engineer life as we know it. Lets also not
    > offend gays, users of color, males, females, users of religion, users
    > of no religion, users of Windows, users of Linux, users of DOS, users
    > of NetWare, etc, etc, etc.

    How did you extrapolate that from what I said? I guess I did step your
    toe's and ego, I was only trying to give constructive criticism.

    >
    >> 1. The "FreeBSD" logo is crap, not beastie (he's a keeper!!!, I'll
    >> hunt you down and do bad things to you if you take him away!), Just
    >> the black wannabe (and badly done) 3D effect "FreeBSD" part, really,
    >> I hate it. Redo the whole logo in photoshop with a bold, antialiased
    >> modern web font: (Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Century Gothic, etc.)
    >> and forget the whole 3D effect as that is so 90s. Generally all of
    >> your logo designs are unprofessional (the logos at the bottom of the
    >> page: FreeBSD MALL, UseNix, Daemon News, and Powered by FreeBSD for
    >> example)
    >
    >
    > You will do no such thing - see above, read the threads on the NetBSD
    > site as to the redoing of the "logo"

    I DON'T want it "redesigned" (like NetBSD did) just re-done... same logo
    just better looking, image is everything you know.

    >
    >> 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site
    >> with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of
    >> Cascading Style Sheets?)
    >
    >
    > CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing?

    No, it's a web standard: http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ also it would be a
    good idea to look into XHTML: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/

    >
    >> 3. The color scheme is not "complementary" anyone who has been to art
    >> school or taken design classes will know what I talking about, read
    >> up about basic color theory here:
    >> http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-theory-basics.html (again, ever
    >> here of Cascading Style Sheets??)
    >
    >
    > Guess what mate - most of us are NOT into art.

    Yes I can tell, I was trying to offer some helpfull tips

    > Get real. Deal with the OS, not the look and feel of the site. Do I
    > really care if a design has passion blue opposed to blue?

    Yes

    >
    > Do you really thing techies are THAT into pastels?

    I don't like pastels ether, to girly, I like bold and neutral colors.

    > If you want to re design something (Actually - is sounds like you have
    > been watching way too much TLC) then get a gig on Monster House.

    I watch the history channel most of the time or the courses offered by
    the local college on channel 20 , I really think TLC has gone down hill
    with all the trading spaces type shows, though page is cute. It's just
    that I've always had a good eye for this type of stuff.

    >
    >
    >> 4. I like the Beastie logo on the boot loader screen but ASCII art is
    >> unprofessional... It would be better if you made the color ASCII
    >> beastie the default.
    >
    >
    > Who cares?!?! It's resource friendly tho...

    That is true.

    >
    >> I have no real issues with the layout of the site and it would be
    >> nice if the installer was more user friendly but I am content with
    >> the way it is, maybe you should change the color scheme of the
    >> installer to match the website?
    >
    >
    > Snip - not worth repeating.
    >
    >> FreeBSD is badly in need of a PR/Design/Marketing department.
    >
    >
    > Maybe you can start, The Queer-Eye for the BSD-Guy.

    If thats what it takes to get FreeBSD out of obscurity and into the
    enterprise then yes I will, just look at what apple did with BSD and
    mozilla did with firefox, I don't want to see FreeBSD (or the other
    BSDs) die into obscurity as I really like them.

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