Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

From: Ceri Davies (ceri_at_submonkey.net)
Date: 12/25/04

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To: Nikolas Britton <freebsd@nbritton.org>, Paul Richards <paul@originative.co.uk>, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Daniel Blendea <bdaniel7@gmail.com>, freebsd-www@freebsd.org, jsha <johann@terrabionic.com>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org

    On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 09:40:00PM -0800, John-Mark Gurney wrote:
    > Nikolas Britton wrote this message on Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 22:46 -0600:

    [ Choosing a random(ish) post to reply to - I am on holiday right now
      and I will not pretend to have read the whole thread ]

    > > 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with a
    > > modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascading
    > > Style Sheets?)
    >
    > you mean a sans-serif font? yes, most computer display fonts should
    > be sans-serif since the screen resolution does not always allow you to
    > do that... (and Helvetica isn't that modern, about 50 years old now
    > it appears)...
    >
    > As for CSS, it appears that we do use CSS on the site:
    > <link rel="style***" type="text/css" href="./index.css" />

    I just committed that before I left for holidays; it is only a first
    step towards CSS'ing the site, and once the conversion to CSS is
    complete then it should be simple to have an a "best style***"
    competition or similar (something along those lines was discussed on
    doc@ a couple of weeks ago). Matt Seaman posted a link to a crappy
    "here is what CSS can do" mockup that I posted to doc@ just before the
    commit mentioned above - it's at
    http://shrike.submonkey.net/~ceri/data2/index.html (be sure to let all
    the images load - this is on a slow link - and be aware that it doesn't
    work properly in IE for reasons that DES mentioned elsewhere).

    Once the conversion to CSS is complete then I have ideas for a way to
    offer users a personalised style*** (subject to implementation [I do
    not have a computer with me] and benchmarking [it is likely to be a
    little slow, though this remains to be seen]), and then you will all
    whine like bitchen about being asked to accept a cookie.

    Simon@ also has a parallel project running to redesign the site on a
    more fundamental which is showing promise; my main focus at present is
    to migrate all style related bits into stylesheets, at which point it
    will be easy to mess around with colour/font/layout. At present, it is
    not.

    So yes, to whoever asked the question, we have heard of CSS and we have
    not only been using it (minimally) for over three years, but there is
    real activity in improving what we do have already.

    > And part of CSS is letting people choose what font they want to display
    > the site in... It appears at least Mozilla chooses Times by default...
    > So I'd more complain to the browers that display with the default font..

    Stimmt.

    Ceri 

    -- 
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm
not sure about the former.			  -- Einstein (attrib.)

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