Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

From: Frank Pawlak (fpawlak_at_wi.rr.com)
Date: 12/28/04

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    Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 19:44:39 -0600
To: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" <listsub@401.cx>, Simon Burke <simon.burke@gmail.com>

    This is one of several issues that have been brought up on an almost
    periodic basis for the past several years. There have been several
    attempts by various folks, including a rather ambitious one by this author,
    and all have died because of severe lack of interest. It has been a few
    years since I have posted to this news group but my advise to you is to
    give it up. You will only meet with much frustration, apathy, and
    something along the lines of " if you don't like it fix it yourself".

    I consider this very unfortunate, because has some commercial properties
    that could well be more attractive than other OS'S. The development team
    just is not interested in this issue. I have fought many a battle in years
    past over marketing issues with members of the core team and others. OK,
    everyone lets see you flame throwers..... Wes Petters, Jordan Hubbard, are
    you out there....;-)

    Frank

    At 06:57 PM 12/27/2004, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote:

    >Simon Burke wrote:
    >[snip]
    >>>2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD
    >>> website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its
    >>> purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign
    >>> could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being
    >>> ugly.
    >>
    >>Aesthetics are not everything, the web site does what its supposed to
    >>do. Also i actually like how it looks.
    >>A lot of people have strong feelings about all these all singing all
    >>dancing webistes. There is just no need. Keep it simple and easy to
    >>navigate around thats all thats really important. If the aesthetics
    >>really matter more than function to such people who use BSD then they
    >>would probably be not using BSD but either windows or linux, where you
    >>have a nice pretty GUI to look at all the nice pretty sites.
    >
    >This is where I think a lot of people simply does not understand the problem.
    >Im a FreeBSD user. I like FreeBSD because it does not have all the flashy
    >installers and pretty GUI's that many linux distros seems to have today.
    >But still, Ive been screaming for years for someone to improve the
    >website. Why?
    >Anyone that has stood in front of a boardroom full of CEO's or similar and
    >tried to promote the use of FreeBSD in a big organisation knows why. They
    >might like all the facts about the os, the rock-solid stability, the
    >lightning-fast performance and its solid reputation as a server os, but
    >one look at the website and they will run screaming towards the nearest
    >linux advocate instead.
    >We, the users, might not care about our image, but if we want to be taken
    >seriously by the rest of the world we better do something about it!
    >
    >[snip]
    >>>4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead
    >>> available to all that support this project.
    >>
    >>I have to ask why? why would people need such things? that i just dont
    >>understand
    >
    >Clearly, you have not tried to "sell" FreeBSD to a big corporation.
    >
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