Re: [RFC] Remove NTFS kernel support

2008/2/7, Alfred Perlstein <alfred@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
* Attilio Rao <attilio@xxxxxxxxxxx> [080207 06:13] wrote:
2008/2/7, Andre Oppermann <andre@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
Eric Anderson wrote:
I think Alfred's point is really interesting. How many people that
don't use it that say 'axe it' does it take to override 1 person saying
'keep it!'?

The real question is how many people does it take to say 'I'll maintain
it'? Just one. Without it, it will only bitrot as evidenced by Attilios
question. NTFS is currently broken, just not as obvious because WITNESS
didn't track and enforce lockmgr locks.

Andre catched exactly my point.
The big problem is that we have a list of several unmaintained fs.
NTFS is in this list. The support is not reliable, it is only
available in read mode and eventually bugged.
I'm not sure I want to keep this if nobody wants to maintain it.

All I'm saying is that I think this is a bit premature considering
the users. Within less than 24hrs we've had a few users reporting
in as users, I'm sure the fixes (now that we have some good assertions)
are going to be trivial.

Why not let it ferment/rot for a release cycle and then see what
the story is?

Obviously if we can fix it is better, but axing is an opportunity I
don't want to leave out and this is why I wanted to poll users about
this issue. Eventually, if an axing is decided, it won't happen in
short times but only once all situations for "migration" will be
probed and finished.

Attilio


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