Re: boot banner project

From: Scott Long (scottl_at_samsco.org)
Date: 04/29/05

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    Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:54:52 -0600
To: John Sconiers <jsconiers@gmail.com>

    Several reasons. The first is the most important:

    No one has stepped forward and 'done it'.

    Now, I personally have a lot of reservations about it. I
    fundamentally don't like the architecture; their claim of
    divorcing the UI from the model isn't really true. What
    they've done is create a lowest-common-denominator UI framework
    that must be invoked directly from the model. Well, I guess
    that 'directly' isn't quite right, since it's redirected through
    an RPC mechanism. But anyways, instead of having the UI (and
    thus the User) direct the flow and control the model, the model
    directs the flow and periodically exchanges input with the user.
    In other words, it still has much of the architectural limitations
    of sysinstall, but with generic UI elements instead of just
    ncurses.

    They also haven't shown how to solve the hard problems, mainly
    partitioning the disk, working in a multi-boot environment,
    divorcing the 'install the bits' phase from the 'configure
    the bits' phase, etc. So, it's a nice proof of concept at
    this point, and it works well for very simple situations, but
    I don't consider it a sysinstall replacement yet. If the
    point of having a new installer is to improve the existing
    state of the art and attract new users, not having multi-boot
    and partitioning is a serious limitation. Every time I
    evagelise FreeBSD to someone new, the second question they
    ask me is whether they can dual boot with it. It is, however,
    good at exactly what it was designed for, mainly taking your
    existing FreeBSD installation and morphing it into DFly ;-)

    Scott

    John Sconiers wrote:
    > Is there a reason why we haven't adopted the bsdinstaller?
    > (www.bsdinstaller.org)
    >
    > On 4/29/05, Michael Nottebrock <lofi@freebsd.org> wrote:
    >
    >>On Friday, 29. April 2005 10:02, /dev/null wrote:
    >>
    >>>"And that's everyone likes in BSD's"
    >>> WOW! Were you elected Official Spokesperson for everyone? ;)
    >>
    >>Everybody has an expert opinion on painting bikesheds.
    >>
    >>--
    >> ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org
    >> (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org
    >> \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >
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