Re: Sendmail question

From: Bill Vermillion (bv_at_wjv.com)
Date: 02/14/05

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    Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:42:21 -0500
    To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
    
    

    I know you'll find this hard to believe, but on Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 23:13 ,
    Suporte Matik actually admitted to saying:

    > On Sunday 13 February 2005 22:46, Noah Davidson wrote:
    >
    > > The only problem with that approach is that this is a back up
    > > server and the users may not be able to know of all of the
    > > users. Is there any way to not have all of these bounced mail
    > > go to the postmaster / root account.

    > sendmail should reject mail for nonexistent users by default
    > and not forward to root unless you have any strange alias for
    > all but you say bounced mail what confuses me a little bit, but
    > anyway, isn't it that your systema accounts are exploited by
    > the spammers ? so if having 10 domains you may get 10 spams for
    > tty in your root mailbox, to prevent you may try this in your
    > access:

    > tty@ ERROR:"4.2.2:450 No such user here."

    > and so on for each systema account and rebuild the access.db and
    > probably your headache goes away

    The problem I have is that when mail is bounced back mail from
    spammers often comes from forged addresses and I get emails
    from the far site indicating there are unknown users.

    So I find routing noexistant users to /dev/null is more productive.
    While it's not exactly the best way to do it, there are so many
    bogus addresses sending mail I haven't found a good alternative.

    One site we handle has one of those strong standalone names that
    don't require any advertising to come up #1 on google or msn and
    when it finally hit 300,000 spams/day for that one domain I took
    out the MX records.

    I use the access.db for blocking known places and I won't send
    anything back at all - I used the DISCARD verb as sending messages
    back does nothing but generate more traffic.

    > >
    > > ________________________________
    > >
    > > From: Bill Vermillion [mailto:bv@wjv.com]
    > > Sent: Sun 2/13/2005 2:30 PM
    > > To: Noah Davidson
    > > Cc: FreeBSD-ISP List
    > > Subject: Re: Sendmail question
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Ashes to ashes, and DOS to DOS Noah Davidson was heard to say
    > >
    > > on or about Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 14:10 :
    > > > I have set up a new FreeBSD box as mainly a backup mail server,
    > > > although it is primary for a couple of domains. It is running
    > > > sendmail 8.13.3 and it works fine, except for all the spam that
    > > > is being sent to it to bad email addresses. I have aliased
    > > > the root account to an email group on another server so that
    > > > someone reads the root mail. The problem is that all the mail
    > > > that spammers are sending to address that do not exist get
    > > > bounced and the root account a notification (I believe it
    > > > is the postmaster alias which is aliased to root). Is there
    > > > any way to not have these notifications sent out. They are
    > > > filling up the mail boxes. I just want the return to sender, but
    > > > not to the root / postmaster as well. I have tried using the
    > > > confCOPY_ERRORS_TO in my .mc file, but that just sends it to an
    > > > additional account as well.
    > >
    > > Making assumptions that your sendmail is receiving bogus mail
    > > for accounts that you have sendmail receive here is approach you
    > > can take.
    > >
    > > Assume you have domains a.com b.com and c.com and your
    > > local-host-names has those.
    > >
    > > Then you need to find out what users you have for each domain
    > >
    > > If you have curly larry and moe on a.com and no one else, then you
    > > can build a virtualusrtable that looks like this.
    > >
    > > curly@a.com curly
    > > larry@a.com larry
    > > moe@a.com moe
    > > @a.com nouser
    > >
    > > And the accnount 'nouser' will be in your /etc/mail/aliases
    > > file and will look like this:
    > >
    > > nouser: /dev/null
    > >
    > > Run make in /etc/mail to create virtusertable.db and aliases.db
    > > and that should get rid of the bogus names going to root.
    > >
    > > I find the virtualusertable to be quite handy for elminating a lot
    > > of junk. It will only be a problem if you have a large user
    > > base or lots of domains.
    > >
    > > Bill
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