Re[2]: SpamAssassian with FreeBSD and Big Mail Server

From: dima (_pppp_at_mail.ru)
Date: 02/24/05

  • Next message: Ion-Mihai Tetcu: "Re: SpamAssassian with FreeBSD and Big Mail Server"
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    Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:32:15 +0300
    
    

    >>> I would like to try dspam as well as I am using spamassassin, but dspam
    >>> are leak of docs on postfix supporting, and no one got experience with
    >>
    >> i can encourage you to do so - you wont regret it: the statistical spam
    >> filtering methods in dspam are miles ahead spamassassin`s (spamassassin
    >> on the other hand is an antispam framework where so many things can be
    >> done (rbl`s, razor, dcc, spf etc.) - i do things like rbl checking
    >> (wirespeed) on the smtp level with postfix so i dont mind.
    >> the postfix integration is dead-easy, really. the dspam docs could be
    >> better but the dspam mailinglist is quite helpful if you got questions.
    >> also consider using one of the many postfix/dspam/etc. howto`s out there:
    >
    > I am not so sure here
    > I tried several different setups of Dspam and on small test servers 100 users
    > or so it actually worked but even so the false-positive rate was very high,
    > actually too high.
    > But another test server with only 2000 user dspam is lost already and it
    > didn't matter which store method I tried out, even a MySQL for it only. It
    > runs a day or two but soon a spam wave comes in message delivery time grows
    > up, memory goes up, the queue fills the disks and swap is eaten until the
    > server goes down on his knees. When I tried to get some numbers nobody
    > answered clearly and I only hear ohh I have lots of users but I never saw
    > something real.
    >
    > spamassassin on the other side with good rules maintanance is hitting fine, I
    > get almost no false-positives and almost all spam is correctly identifies
    > which we drop into a spam folder with procmail. That is cool, no memory
    > excess and absolutly stable and reliable.

    We use some connection and header checks before processing the actual message with antivirus/antispam software. It drops a lot of bad messages, so the dual p3 is able to process 50K+ useful messages a day without any problems.

    >> http://devnull.com/kyler/dspam.20040609.html
    >>
    >>> dspam+Spamassassin together, so...
    >>
    >> the latest amavisd-new versions got dspam support - anyway its a little
    >> bit "hacky" at the moment i.m.h.o, so i wouldnt really use it on
    >> production hosts (some might disagree in small mta environments).
    >>
    >>>>Vahric MUHTARYAN schrieb:
    >>>>>Hi Everybody ,
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Really I don't know can I say a big mail server which have
    >>>>>30,000 mailbox on it 1200+ simultaneously connections
    >>>>>(pop,smtp,webmail).
    >>>>>Ýncoming smtp connections are between 200-400 . We want to run spam
    >>>>>software
    >>>>>on it but machine can't handle it for this reason we seperated machine
    >>>>>freebsd+exim+SpamAssassian but on 400 connection machine goes down
    >>>>>average
    >>>>>is very high , cpu usage really too high .
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I want to learn Anybody Who have closer or bigger system and
    >>>>>using SpamAssassian ?!
    >>>>>Really this 400 connection simultaneously can be limit for spam software
    > > >>>?!
    > > >>>I mean Anybody can handle more ?!
    > > >>>I have to design distributed environment ?!
    > > >>>
    > > >>>My Hardware is (for spam)
    > > >>> 2 X PIII 1G + 1 GB RAM + 2 DISK RAID 0 SCSI 10000 RPM
    > > >>
    > > >>i use spamassassin only on small-/medium-sized MTA installations (its a
    > > >>memory/cpu hog i.m.h.o. but i like it) - on all my "bigger" systems i
    > > >>really prefer dspam (coded in straight C and fast as hell). it is used
    > > >>in some environments with 350,000 email users and scales really well (if
    > > >>you have the iron and experience to build/maintain such a
    > > >> system/cluster).
    > > >>
    > > >>http://www.nuclearelephant.com/projects/dspam/
    > > >>
    > > >>>Thanks
    > > >>>Vahric
    > > >>>
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