Re: [OT] Domain Name Registrars


Duane Whitty wrote:
Duane Whitty wrote:
Hello to everyone,

Would anyone care to recommend a good domain name registrar,
able to offer service for both gTLDs and .ca ccTLDs.

I've tried cheap and to be honest my headache just keeps growing.
After having setup FreeBSD, DNS, Sendmail, and Apache, I thought
I had the hard stuff taken care of. I guess I was wrong.

All I want to do is have my registrar point the name server entries for
a .com domain I'm managing at the name servers I'm running. Why is this
so difficult? Or expensive?

Is it my fault? Am I doing something wrong? -- I know, kinda hard to answer that.

My registrar told me my name server needs to be registered with ICANN. I've read
as much as I could find about ICANN's mandate and policies on their website
http://www.icann.org but I couldn't find anything which indicated I had to register
anything with them unless I intended on becoming an ICANN certified registrar.

It seems odd in any event that I would need to register my name server, which is in the .ca
domain, with ICANN. Obviously I had to register with CIRA but that seems irrelevant
to my current situation / vexation.

If I do somehow need to register my name server with ICANN would someone be so kind
as to point me to the correct RTFM entry, URI, etc.

Thanks in advance,

Duane Whitty
Hello again, everyone

Thank you for your responses.

Yeah, my registrar is on crack as far as I'm concerned and I think a lot of other registrars,
if not most of them, are just as bad.

I wish there was a way to tell the root servers about my name server without even needing
to go through the registrars

For the record, the registrar is Netfirms. Beware of Netfirms. I just don't
understand what the issue is. Maybe they thought I'd roll over and give them all
my DNS, email, and web hosting business once they made it impossible for me
to run my own DNS. If so, they thought wrong. And ICANN will definitely be
hearing from me.

What I don't understand is why they bother with this policy. Isn't it just easier to sell
a domain name and tell the customer to email you or fill out your web form with their
name server information. I know that is exactly how it use to be done, except you only
only dealt with one organization. Then charge a customer if they want extra stuff. Then
if they want enough extra features start making packages with incentives.

And even when you know you may have this problem and ask about it directly it's like
pulling teeth trying to get a straight answer. I've basically come to the conclusion that
anything other than an immediate "Yes, name servers are your responsibilty. Tell us
the name of your name servers and the IP addresses. If you want us to run your DNS it
costs this much $X extra".

Well, whiners are irritating and I'm starting to irritate myself. So enough of my noise.
Thanks a lot for the suggestions and clarifications.


Most Respectfully,

Duane Whitty


Here's the thing for name servers (at least as far as I understand it)... the glue records must exist in the root servers for each registry. If your name servers are under the .ca TLD, and you're registering a .com domain, then the .com registry must have the glue records for your .ca name servers.

While this policy makes sense, it does suck when it comes time to renumber your network, since you'll have to update the glue records in every registry out there. Quite the PITA.

Ugh... speaking of which, I have like 8 days left to get my network renumbers... please do feel sorry for me.

As an OpenSRS reseller, I have the ability to publish my glue records myself. This doesn't help my customers, but at least the frustration ends with me, and I don't have to fight my registrar to get it done.

IMO, if you're not working with a wholesale registrar like OpenSRS, you really should look into it. You get a much greater level of control over your domains, which can make life much nicer. Yes, you might pay a little more than you would with the bottom-feeding registrars and RSPs out there, but it's well worth it IMO. Tucows is pretty responsive to questions (I think that someone already said "they're not assholes"), not that you'll have any once you get up and running and have all your domains transferred over.

Good luck,

--
Troy Settle
Pulaski Networks
http://www.psknet.com
866.477.5638
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