Re: Postfix + AUTH/TLS + Outlook/OE problem



On 8/19/06, Adrian Gonzalez <adrianbsd@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Darren

Comments below...

Darren Pilgrim wrote:
> Adrian Gonzalez wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > I'm seeing some very strange behavior with Outlook 2003 and Outlook
> > Express trying to send mail using TLS/SMTP Auth with Postfix 2.3 and
> > FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE
> >
> > It seems like Outlook/OE don't like the SSL handshake for some
> > reason. They connect to the server, issue STARTTLS, and disconnect
> > during the handshake, giving an "Error Number: 0x800CCC0B". I've
> > tried both STARTTLS and using 'wrapper mode' on port 465 with the
> > same results.
>

Don't you have any antiviral software running on the Win32 box by
any chance ? There are cases (such as with Avast) when the STARTTLS
doesn't succeed due to the software's connection monitoring module
refusing to let it pass due to encryption.


> Which version of Outlook Express were you using? Outlook Express 6
> doesn't support STARTTLS, only wrapper-mode. OE6 also also has a broken
> SASL implementation (set broken_sasl_auth_clients=yes). Yay for Microsoft!

Outlook Express 6 (6.00.2900.2180 according to the 'about' window). Basically,
the one that comes with Windows XP Pro + All current updates/service packs. It
does seem to be trying STARTTLS though. I did have the broken_sasl_auth_clients
option enabled, I believe it just causes postfix to 'advertise' AUTH in the
usual way along with outlook's broken way.

> Have you modified your cipher settings in postfix? FYR, Outlook XP/2003
> and Outlook Express 6 prefer 128-bit RC4-MD5 and do not support AES,
> whereas Thunderbird supports and prefers AES256-SHA.

I suspect OE might not like what the server is offering, but I'm not qute sure
what to change. The postfix manual strongly advises against excluding ciphers.
Any suggestions?

> On my own mail server, I can send email using all four clients through
> STARTTLS+SASL (Outlook and Thunderbird) or SMTPS+SASL (OE). The server
> is FreeBSD RELENG_6_1 with the stock OpenSSL and postfix 2.3.1 with
> default tls_*_cipherlist settings.

I'm using 2.3.0,1 with the updated stable OpenSSL. I'll try updating my ports
tree and rebuilding the latest stable postfix and see what happens.

> Be happy to compare configs off-list, postconf -n and the like.

Thanks!

>
> P.S. You may want to retry this question on postfix-users. You'll have
> better luck if you're willing to wade through the usual "ditch MS" rude
> commentary.
>

> P.P.S. Please configure your mail client to wrap lines.
I normally do, but the postfix logs looked really bad with wrapping :)
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