Re: need suggestions on making a wireless network using bluetooth

From: Maksim Yevmenkin (m_evmenkin_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 02/09/04

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    Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 10:04:10 -0800 (PST)
    To: Tony Frank <tfrank@optushome.com.au>, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu@realss.com>
    
    

    > > >Encryption is a good idea for any wireless network.
    > > >I believe bluetooth has a little more in this respect over 802.11 but
    > > >I do not know any sure statement whether by itself it is enough.
    > > >Eg you may need to run IPSec or similar over any wireless link to secure
    > > >your data.
    > > I don't mean bluetooth has better encryption ... I mean bluetooth cannot
    > > pass through walls, making it diffcult to listen network traffic outside
    > > the building:)
    >
    > While bluetooth is primarily designed as a short-range cable replacement,
    > it does use the same frequency range as 802.11 (2.4Ghz).
    >
    > I have seen bluetooth modules that can reportedly work at up to 100m.

    that is correct.
     
    > Practical experience in an office environment shows I can do LAN/dial up
    > easily over a distance 15-20m without direct line of sight to a handset.

    that is also correct. the range can be increased by using better antenna
    and increased power.
     
    > The bluetooth layer2 encryption can however be tougher to crack than the
    > WEP used in 802.11. Of course it only works if you enable it.

    personally, i do not think bluetooth link encryption would be harder to
    break then say WEP. i do not think that anyone actually looked into this.
    i recall an article about flaws in bluetooth link encryption but i can
    not find the link at the moment.

    as far as i know no one found/published the way to put of the shelf bluetooth
    device into monitor/promiscuous mode as one can do with prism based 802.11
    cards (this statement *doesn't* mean that it cannot be done). that is the
    only thing that is preventing anyone from snooping on bluetooth network.

    i did mentioned bluetooth scanners/protocol analyzers in my previous email.
    have a look at http://www.palowireless.com/bluetooth/testequip.asp

    if (when) bluetooth gains more popularity as 802.11 then someone will find
    a cheap and easy way to snoop on bluetooth network. there is nothing you can
    do about it.

    > Personally when using any fixed/wireless network for sensitive
    > application I would use encryption at layer3 also (IPsec) at minimum.

    again i agree. i have one thing to say though. if someone really wants
    to get your data, he/she will. one way or another. there is still a human
    factor. you still need to communicate with the rest of the world using
    public internet etc.
     
    thanks,
    max

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