FreeBSD-newbies group is a compromise community.

From: Anurak C. (anurak4_at_fastmail.fm)
Date: 03/19/04

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    To: "Eric" <Eric@savaka.com>, <freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 09:23:52 +0700

    Hi all,

    This is my first time to post to this mailing list. I can call myself a
    newbie as well. I would like to share my point of view that there are many
    people out there who doesn't know where to ask easy questions. Most new
    arrival to FreeBSD or Unix world think that they are coming to another new
    world full of gurus and hackers. Unix seems to be the world for experts.

    Many new comers are always thinking that their questions might be too easy
    or very stupid for those experts. That is why we see many new comers keep
    posting to the newbies group.

    As far as I remember, I used to see a newbies group for Linux community
    which answer many technical questions to new comers. I may be wrong but I
    used to ask questions on how to install and config slackware linux many
    years ago. There were many people replied to me and one of them gave me
    his email so that he can help me directly. I finally installed
    successfully and posted all our conversation to the linux newbies mailing
    list.

    I realize that FreeBSD-newbies is not for technical questions but it is just
    the general agreement or a concept. All of us know this agreement but
    still answer again and again. I don't know why. I have seen many people
    here offer help to new comers without complaining them. Maybe there is
    something compromising in our community, Daemon?

    I am not convincing everyone to violate the agreement but please be patient
    to new comers. We may answer them and suggest them to ask in
    FreeBSD-questions for more detail.

    Regards,
    Anurak C.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Eric" <Eric@savaka.com>
    To: <freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org>
    Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 5:18 AM
    Subject: Re: openssl upgrade confusion

    > Frankly I can't decide which is more annoying - receiving user questions
    posted
    > on the "wrong" discussion list, or receiving complaints that the user
    questions
    > were posted on the "wrong" discussion list.
    >
    > I guess it all makes for an interesting inbox experience.
    >
    >
    > Quoting Freddie Cash <fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca>:
    >
    > > And once again we're shown why technical questions are NOT to be asked
    > > on the newbies list. This list is NOT for technical support. This
    > > list is to discuss the newbie experience. What works for you, what
    > > wonderful things you've discovered, your experiences with FreeBSD at
    > > home or work. Things like that. Consider it a coffee shop where
    > > everyone comes after work to just shoot the breeze about life.
    > >
    > > Technical questions should be asked on the FreeBSD-Questions mailing
    > > list, where all the gurus and wizards lurk. They can provide answers
    > > that are correct on the first shot, and consistent from poster to
    > > poster.
    > >
    > > As for the OpenSSL issue, either wait for OpenSSL to be upgraded in
    > > the base, then do a buildworld. Or, install the port using
    > > OPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE (or whatever the option is called, it's listed
    > > in the Makefile). That's it, that's all. Nothing in FreeBSD is ever
    > > as complicated as the previous two posts. :)
    > >
    > > > On Mar 18, 2004, at 11:58 AM, Jamie wrote:
    > > >> I'm trying to upgrade my to openssl 0.9.7d from 0.9.7c and am
    > > >> having a
    > > >> really rough time. I downloaded the 9.7d tarball and untarred it in
    > > >> /usr/src. I did a ./config, make, and make install. It seems to have
    > > >> placed the new openssl libraries in a different location than where
    > > >> the
    > > >> original ones were installed:
    > > >> # locate libcrypto.a
    > > >> /usr/lib/libcrypto.a
    > > >> /usr/local/ssl/lib/libcrypto.a
    > > >> What is the best way to over-write the base install? I've
    > > >> considered
    > > >> adding /usr/local/ssl/lib to the /var/run/ld-elf.so.hints file but I
    > > >> can't
    > > >> find a way to modify the order so that /usr/local/ssl/lib/ is
    > > >> checked
    > > >> before /usr/lib.
    > > >>
    > > >> - Jamie
    > > >>
    > > > Ash.Gokhale@noaa.gov
    > > > System Administration Lead,
    > > > NOAA/MDL
    > > >
    > > > _______________________________________________
    > > > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list
    > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies
    > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to
    > > > "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Freddie Cash
    > > fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca
    > > _______________________________________________
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    > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies
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    "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
    > >
    >
    >
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