Re: Tastes Like Chicken

From: Jason Dusek (jdusek_at_cs.uiowa.edu)
Date: 03/24/04

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    Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 02:53:36 -0600
To: "Newbies@BSD" <freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org>

    Juan Pablo Gutierrez wrote:

    > On Mar 23, 2004, at 7:52 PM, Jason Dusek wrote:
    >
    >> I'll guess I'll add to the Hoopla. I'm a former Mac user, who was
    >> always deeply curious about the workings of his machine. I have to
    >> say that I have yet to find in any other operating system the unique
    >> combination of instructional challenges and raw functionality that is
    >> offered by FreeBSD! I am now evangelizing FreeBSD to all my friends
    >> - and I'm pushing it for a local non-profit organization as the
    >> solution to their new found need for business work stations. I
    >> really look forward to the day when FreeBSD with GNOME or KDE (or
    >> perhaps some weird interhack of the two of them) is a common desktop
    >> environment.
    >>
    >> --
    >> ~*~* Jason
    >
    >
    >
    > Hi Jason,
    >
    > My experience is the exact opposite of yours: I've gone from FreeBSD
    > to Mac (though I tinker on any OS I find, Linux, Windows, Menuet,
    > etc). I'm curious if you've played with OpenDarwin at all. I've been
    > meaning to install it, but haven't had the time, and the newest
    > version runs on both PPC and x86. Anyway, I'm curious to see how OS X
    > evolves. As it is now, running X11 on it is pretty weird. Where is
    > XF86Config? or xf86config for that matter? The operating system is
    > still very new and Macs are new to me, so I expect to figure things
    > out eventually. BTW, what's with this GNOME and KDE stuff? Fluxbox
    > forever!
    >
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    I haven't touched OpenDarwin. I really don't think that it's added all
    that much to the open source community - it's basically just a bunch of
    nice additions to FreeBSD. None of the really useful Mac like things -
    like Aqua - are open. And using the Mach kernel is hardly Apple's idea.

    I think that Apple is going to have to make a decision, and I hope they
    make the right decision - I think they have to decide to become an open
    source hardware developer. Honestly I don't think this will cost them a
    penny - their hardware's good enough to move units for all kinds of
    computationally intensive applications, and a lot of their market
    (graphic design studios and so forth) would just buy a packaged distro
    from them anyway.

    In the meantime though, a free Mac is just not in the cards. So I've
    got GNOME instead. Though I bet you sawfish is a whole new experience... 

    -- 
~*~* Jason
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