Re: Technical questions and Newbie experience.
From: Chauncey Smith (csmith_at_icdc.com)
To: <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 00:13:17 -0400
I have to admit to not falling into either of those groups. I have a back
ground in computers and choose Free BSD for my Alpha server. Yea I'm so Geek
I got one for Xmas one year. My OS choices.. Leave it win NT or try
something new. I only had a little experience with Linux and that was a file
and print server that did nothing else on my network.Well DHCP.
but my problem was no nice documentation. I found Freebsd. I found the
manuals and fiddled with the server. and before I got it up and running I
decided I wanted to use the server for other things then just file and
print. I"m like it's a 64 bit wide bus. Hey A web server Hey I have this big
bootied raid array.. something. So I went on a search for an OS. Linux
showed Linux stuff. a bunch of confusing distro's. FreeBSD offered one home
for everything. and Ports. install software no /configure just make install
clean. Heck one of my first scripts was "port" talk about lazy. I wrote a
text file and typed the following lines.
sudo make && make install && make clean && rehash
named it port and put it in the /usr/bin chmoded it executable. Now I just
got into the ports directory and find what I want and type 'port'. Talk
about lazy or insanely genius. But I feel in love with the hand book. I have
an old copy in paper. and found the information never gets too old to be a
good guide of how to start atleast.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Krzysztof Sroka" <email@example.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: Technical questions and Newbie experience.
> On Wednesday 26 of May 2004 19:30, Olivier Gautherot wrote:
> > That's a good point. There are at least 2 types of newbies:
> > 1) the "I have 50 years of experience in Solaris and you-name-IX and 5
> > Linux distros and I'm starting with FreeBSD now" on one hand and
> Well, I don't think that people with 50-year experience in *NIXes
> this group. FreeBSD isn't much different than most of UNIX-based OS'es
> these people need any advice in running all the basic components they
> At least they know how to find the exact information they need. But in
> there is a group experienced in Linux'es who need to know little diffs
> between deamon and tux, and they are most often redirected to
> > 2) the "my room mate installed FreeBSD on my machine and I have just
> > discovered that there is an ON switch on the front panel" on the other
> Oh, these ones shouldn't install FreeBSD at all. They would rather prefer
> Mandrake or anything a bit simplier than BSD. After two moths of my own
> experience in FBSD I have to admit that not everything is as user-friendly
> in Linux - begining with post-install XFree configuration ending with
> handling ports collection and bringing up sound. If someone isn't tought
> read manuals the first months under BSD can be real road through hell for
> > Having been a newbie myself a few months ago (with fairly extensive
> > Linux background), I acknowledge that, even though the manual is really
> > good, it's a thick reading for people switching or simply starting with
> > computers (no flame, I don't mean to start a controversy about whether
> > FreeBSD is good for a very beginner :-).
> > What I missed is a "Installation and first steps in FreeBSD in 10
> > lessons". I know there are 1,000 web sites that claim this but I've
> > found no short document on the official FreeBSD web site telling you
> > where to look for info when you start - I was probably too eager to get
> > started... All software products I know have a "Getting started" guide
> > so I guess we should have one too (X in VESA mode, no sound, networking
> > in DHCP client - and pointers to the manual for 3D graphics support,
> > sound servers, firewall, NAT, DHCP server etc.)
> Right. Some simple HOW-TO's would be very helpful. For example a short
> introduction to XF86. But many of these can be taken from a large ammount
> Linux guides. Personally, I will start a BSD-guide section as a part of my
> weblog and if someone wishes to participate in this, please e-mail me.
> Excuse me for using not-very-good english, but I still need to learn it a
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