RE: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive

From: Ted Mittelstaedt (tedm_at_toybox.placo.com)
Date: 05/16/05

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    To: <fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com>, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
    Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 17:07:14 -0700
    
    

    PR i386/81082

    Once again, I don't think the problem is in the build process they used
    for making the ISO. As a matter of fact I just yesterday did a 5.4
    install
    on a system, booting from CD, which I burned from disc1.iso that I
    downloaded
    from one of the FTP mirrors, on the one machine I mentioned in the PR
    that didn't have a problem.

    I think the problem is in the driver. If you go to the CVS tree it
    is obvious that they have been dealing with these issues. For example,
    check out comments like "Fix more ATAPI breakage. Apparently some devices
    are very picky on details :)" made just 2 days ago, see here:

    http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/ata/

    You also might consider that according to the device driver output your
    running
    a 40pin non-UDMA cable on what looks like a UDMA drive, which is a
    no-no, it might simply be a cabling issue with bad cables in your system.
    If you really do have an 80 pin cable then try exchanging it with another
    one, and remember, the blue connector goes to the adapter card, the black
    connector to the drive, and the grey to the secondary drive, if there is
    one.

    I don't have any more pull getting PR's worked on, but I have found
    that if they are properly filed then they get worked on faster. For
    example,
    the PR system isn't an appropriate place for complaining that a mirror
    site
    is missing miniinst.iso file - you should contact the mirror
    administrator
    of the mirror in question, directly. And you might also consider that
    there
    is a 20MB file named 5.4-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso in the release
    directory -
    see for example:

    ftp://ftp13.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/5.4/

    and that there IS NOT a miniinst.iso file in the master FTP location,
    see:

    ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/5.4/

    I would guess maybe they renamed it?

    Also, you cannot assume a mirror site is going to have a good copy of
    stable
    anyway. You can only assume mirrors are going to be accurate for
    RELEASES,
    as there's always propagation time from when changes are made. If your
    traking snapshots you should be using
    ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/

    Ted

    Ted

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
    > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of fbsd_user
    > Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 4:41 AM
    > To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG
    > Cc: stable@freebsd.org
    > Subject: RE: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive
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    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
    > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of fbsd_user
    > > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 12:54 PM
    > > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG
    > > Cc: stable@freebsd.org
    > > Subject: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive
    > >
    >
    > >
    > > Power management and APIC have been bios disabled since
    > > version FreeBSD 3.4
    > > version so that is not the problem. I tried selecting safe
    > > option to boot
    > > and still get same error 'no hard disk found". My hard drive
    > > is an western
    > > digital 310100 on ata0 as master. When using this 5.4 install
    > > cd on other
    > > pc/ motherboard/ hard drive combos I get same error.
    > >
    > > I think there is something wrong with the build process of the
    > > disc1.iso
    > > file.
    >
    > I don't think there is anything wrong with the build process of
    > disc1.iso. I think instead that someone made a change in the atapi
    > driver that broke this.
    >
    > I have a Intel Desktop Motherboard VC820 that this exact thing
    > happened
    > to. In my case, I fortunately was running a Hipoint RAID card in it
    > so
    > the only thing that got wacked was the system now does not recognize
    > that there is a CDROM on the secondary onboard IDE controller. Last
    > week I had it running FreeBSD 4.11 just fine. (not on the RAID
    > controller)
    >
    > I had assumed that using the RAID controller made it so that the
    > onboard
    > ATAPI controller had some problem, but after seeing this post it is
    > clear
    > that they broke the driver.
    >
    > DO you want to file a PR or should I?
    >
    > Ted
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm@toybox.placo.com]
    > Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 12:38 AM
    > To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG
    > Cc: stable@freebsd.org
    > Subject: RE: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive
    >
    >
    > Ted.
    >
    > I filed a PR on the missing miniinst.iso file.
    > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=80861
    >
    > And it's not been addressed yet. So if you have some pull
    > in getting PR's worked on then you should file the PR on this
    > problem.
    > As I see this, it's a show stopper in distributing 5.4 stable and
    > needs
    > to be addressed immediately because all the mirror FTP sites are
    > populated with non-functional disc1 iso files.
    >
    > Here are some more details from the boot of disc1.
    >
    > The btx loader issues this messages
    > bios drive C: is disk1
    >
    > and near the end of the boot messages I get
    >
    > ata1-master: pio=0x0c wdma=0x22 udma=0x42 cable=40pin
    > ata1-master; setting pio4 on VIA 82C596B chip
    >
    > Please send me the PR number after you report this so I can track
    > it.
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    >
    >
    >
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