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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:15:32 -0700 (PDT)
To: questions@freebsd.org

Oops, I don't think this got to the list. So I'm
sending just in case.
--- Steve Camp <steve@camp.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Where are you located?
  Oregon.
> I'm in Denver. I use Qwest DSL, but Dimensional
> Communications /
> Forethought (www.dim.com / www.dimensional.com /
> www.forethought.com)
> is my ISP. No way in hell that I'd use MSN for my
> ISP.
 So I take it that my little eutopia wont work then.
:(
> I'd inquire about using a 3rd party ISP. That has
> not been a problem
> with Qwest here in Denver. At one point phone
> companies were
> required to open their DSL networks to 3rd party
> ISPs. Not sure if
> that is still the case or not. But I'm pretty
> positive that 3rd party
> ISP is not a problem, at least in the Denver area.
> You might not get
> the killer monthly deal, though. But you can get
> things like static
> IPs, possibly a /29 or /28 network if you have a
> good reason /
> multiple machines. You can typically also run other
> protocols (e.g.
> ftp, smtp, telnet, www etc) on a 3rd party ISP / DSL
> setup.
I think they have another deal that doesn't use MSN.
Not the killer 19.99 deal though. :(
> Hope this helps.
It did a little, I got a good laugh from your comment
about MSN. Alrighty, I'll do more research then work
on the logistics of getting service of some kind
(maybe that clear wire gizmo).
> --
> Steve Camp
> Centennial, CO
> steve@camp.com
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 08:47:30PM -0700, Kris
> Anderson wrote:
> > Hey folks,
> >
> > I'm getting off cable (Comcast and 6 megabits) and
> > either looking at Qwest DSL w/MSN premium or a
> service
> > called Clear Wire (Wireless internet).
> >
> > I'm a bit baffled because Qwest says they have a
> deal
> > that I could get DSL for $19.99 a month for a
> year. Of
> > course the fine prints MSN is the ISP so forth and
> so
> > on.
> >
> > Their fine print -
> > Qwest Choice™ DSL Deluxe with MSN® Premium:
> Available
> > for residential use only. Service not available in
> all
> > areas. Special offer available for new Qwest DSL®
> > customers only and includes $19.99 monthly charge
> for
> > 12 months when combined on one bill with a
> qualifying
> > home phone pac kage ($24.99 otherwise), free
> > activation and 50% off optional technician
> > installation (regularly $100). After twelve months
> of
> > service, price will revert to standard pricing
> which
> > is currently $39.99 per month when service is
> combined
> > with a qualifying Qwest local phone package on one
> > bill (otherwise $44.99 per month). Rates subject
> to
> > change. Limit of one bundle discount for DSL
> services
> > per account. Qwest local phone service or package
> > required. DSL modem can be purchased from Qwest
> for
> > $59.99 or rented for $5/month ,plus $9.99 shipping
> and
> > handling fee. Non Qwest-supplied modems may not be
> > supported. Actual DSL speed varies depending on a
> > variety of factors. Uninterrupted or error-free
> > service not guaranteed. All prices do not include
> > taxes, incremental charges and surcharges. Other
> > restrictions may apply. MSN ISP requires agreement
> to
> > MSN Acceptable Use Policy. Microsoft, MSN and the
> MSN
> > logo are either registered trademarks or
> trademarks of
> > Microsoft Corporation in the United States and/or
> > other countries. Special Offer until January 28,
> 2006.
> >
> >
> > Qwest Choice™ DSL with MSN® Premium: Available for
> > residential use only. Service not available in all
> > areas. Special offer available for new Qwest DSL®
> > customers only and includes free activation and
> 50%
> > off optional technician installation (regularly
> > $99.99). After twelve months of service, price
> will
> > revert to standard pricing which is currently
> $39.99
> > per month when service is combined with a
> qualifying
> > Qwest local phone package on one bill (otherwise
> > $44.99 per month). Rates subject to change. Limit
> of
> > one bundle discount for DSL services per account.
> > Qwest local phone service or package required. Mod
> em
> > may be purchased from Qwest for $59.99 or rented
> for
> > $5/month, plus $9.99 shipping and handling fee.
> Non
> > Qwest-supplied modems may not be supported. Actual
> DSL
> > speed varies depending on a variety of factors.
> > Uninterrupted or error-free service not
> guaranteed.
> > Prices do not include taxes, incremental charges
> and
> > surcharges. Other restrictions may apply. MSN ISP
> > requires agreement to MSN Acceptable Use Policy.
> > Microsoft, MSN and the MSN logo are either
> registered
> > trademarks or trademarks of Microsoft Corporation
> in
> > the United States and/or other countries. Special
> > Offer valid until January 28, 2006.
> > -
> >
> > How I had it previously was Comcast's modem to
> > wireless router (Linksys WRT-54G), a little
> Linksys
> > switch, FreeBSD and misc. Windows computers
> happily
> > sharing the connection.
> >
> > Just to confirm, my guess is that this would not
> be
> > the service to go with since I would love to have
> my
> > spiffy Linksys Router (WRT-54G) hook to the DSL.
> And
> > to the WR54G the usual network systems of FreeBSD,
> and
> > misc Windows computers.
> >
> > If the above isn't going to work then I'm stuck
> with a
> > different bundle (a few bucks more) that would
> allow
> > me to do the same thing. I hope. I'm not familiar
> with
> > the way in which DSL does its connectivity thing.
> > Okay, I saw in a previous question that PPoE is
> needed
> > with DSL. And I noticed that I could set my WRT54G
> to
> > utilize PPoE, so maybe MSN ISP & Qwest service
> will
> > work?
> >
> > So am I right in still thinking that with MSN as
> the
> > ISP my setup it isn't going to be FreeBSD friendly
> and
> > that my spiffy little Comcast setup isn't going to
> > work with MSN as the ISP?
> >
> > Most appreciated. Gah, that means I'm probably not
> > going to be needing my little WRT-54G router then.
> :~(
> >
> > Hope I wasn't to confusiong there.
> >
> > ~Mr. Anderson
> >
> >
> >
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attached mail follows:

Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:10:32 -0700 (PDT)
To: Steve Camp <steve@camp.com>

--- Steve Camp <steve@camp.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Where are you located?
  Oregon.
> I'm in Denver. I use Qwest DSL, but Dimensional
> Communications /
> Forethought (www.dim.com / www.dimensional.com /
> www.forethought.com)
> is my ISP. No way in hell that I'd use MSN for my
> ISP.
 So I take it that my little eutopia wont work then.
:(
> I'd inquire about using a 3rd party ISP. That has
> not been a problem
> with Qwest here in Denver. At one point phone
> companies were
> required to open their DSL networks to 3rd party
> ISPs. Not sure if
> that is still the case or not. But I'm pretty
> positive that 3rd party
> ISP is not a problem, at least in the Denver area.
> You might not get
> the killer monthly deal, though. But you can get
> things like static
> IPs, possibly a /29 or /28 network if you have a
> good reason /
> multiple machines. You can typically also run other
> protocols (e.g.
> ftp, smtp, telnet, www etc) on a 3rd party ISP / DSL
> setup.
I think they have another deal that doesn't use MSN.
Not the killer 19.99 deal though. :(
> Hope this helps.
It did a little, I got a good laugh from your comment
about MSN. Alrighty, I'll do more research then work
on the logistics of getting service of some kind
(maybe that clear wire gizmo).
> --
> Steve Camp
> Centennial, CO
> steve@camp.com
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 08:47:30PM -0700, Kris
> Anderson wrote:
> > Hey folks,
> >
> > I'm getting off cable (Comcast and 6 megabits) and
> > either looking at Qwest DSL w/MSN premium or a
> service
> > called Clear Wire (Wireless internet).
> >
> > I'm a bit baffled because Qwest says they have a
> deal
> > that I could get DSL for $19.99 a month for a
> year. Of
> > course the fine prints MSN is the ISP so forth and
> so
> > on.
> >
> > Their fine print -
> > Qwest Choice™ DSL Deluxe with MSN® Premium:
> Available
> > for residential use only. Service not available in
> all
> > areas. Special offer available for new Qwest DSL®
> > customers only and includes $19.99 monthly charge
> for
> > 12 months when combined on one bill with a
> qualifying
> > home phone pac kage ($24.99 otherwise), free
> > activation and 50% off optional technician
> > installation (regularly $100). After twelve months
> of
> > service, price will revert to standard pricing
> which
> > is currently $39.99 per month when service is
> combined
> > with a qualifying Qwest local phone package on one
> > bill (otherwise $44.99 per month). Rates subject
> to
> > change. Limit of one bundle discount for DSL
> services
> > per account. Qwest local phone service or package
> > required. DSL modem can be purchased from Qwest
> for
> > $59.99 or rented for $5/month ,plus $9.99 shipping
> and
> > handling fee. Non Qwest-supplied modems may not be
> > supported. Actual DSL speed varies depending on a
> > variety of factors. Uninterrupted or error-free
> > service not guaranteed. All prices do not include
> > taxes, incremental charges and surcharges. Other
> > restrictions may apply. MSN ISP requires agreement
> to
> > MSN Acceptable Use Policy. Microsoft, MSN and the
> MSN
> > logo are either registered trademarks or
> trademarks of
> > Microsoft Corporation in the United States and/or
> > other countries. Special Offer until January 28,
> 2006.
> >
> >
> > Qwest Choice™ DSL with MSN® Premium: Available for
> > residential use only. Service not available in all
> > areas. Special offer available for new Qwest DSL®
> > customers only and includes free activation and
> 50%
> > off optional technician installation (regularly
> > $99.99). After twelve months of service, price
> will
> > revert to standard pricing which is currently
> $39.99
> > per month when service is combined with a
> qualifying
> > Qwest local phone package on one bill (otherwise
> > $44.99 per month). Rates subject to change. Limit
> of
> > one bundle discount for DSL services per account.
> > Qwest local phone service or package required. Mod
> em
> > may be purchased from Qwest for $59.99 or rented
> for
> > $5/month, plus $9.99 shipping and handling fee.
> Non
> > Qwest-supplied modems may not be supported. Actual
> DSL
> > speed varies depending on a variety of factors.
> > Uninterrupted or error-free service not
> guaranteed.
> > Prices do not include taxes, incremental charges
> and
> > surcharges. Other restrictions may apply. MSN ISP
> > requires agreement to MSN Acceptable Use Policy.
> > Microsoft, MSN and the MSN logo are either
> registered
> > trademarks or trademarks of Microsoft Corporation
> in
> > the United States and/or other countries. Special
> > Offer valid until January 28, 2006.
> > -
> >
> > How I had it previously was Comcast's modem to
> > wireless router (Linksys WRT-54G), a little
> Linksys
> > switch, FreeBSD and misc. Windows computers
> happily
> > sharing the connection.
> >
> > Just to confirm, my guess is that this would not
> be
> > the service to go with since I would love to have
> my
> > spiffy Linksys Router (WRT-54G) hook to the DSL.
> And
> > to the WR54G the usual network systems of FreeBSD,
> and
> > misc Windows computers.
> >
> > If the above isn't going to work then I'm stuck
> with a
> > different bundle (a few bucks more) that would
> allow
> > me to do the same thing. I hope. I'm not familiar
> with
> > the way in which DSL does its connectivity thing.
> > Okay, I saw in a previous question that PPoE is
> needed
> > with DSL. And I noticed that I could set my WRT54G
> to
> > utilize PPoE, so maybe MSN ISP & Qwest service
> will
> > work?
> >
> > So am I right in still thinking that with MSN as
> the
> > ISP my setup it isn't going to be FreeBSD friendly
> and
> > that my spiffy little Comcast setup isn't going to
> > work with MSN as the ISP?
> >
> > Most appreciated. Gah, that means I'm probably not
> > going to be needing my little WRT-54G router then.
> :~(
> >
> > Hope I wasn't to confusiong there.
> >
> > ~Mr. Anderson
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
> > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in
> one click.
> > http://farechase.yahoo.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> >
>
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to
> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>

        
                
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