Re: backup strategies

From: Eric Schuele (e.schuele_at_computer.org)
Date: 10/30/05

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    Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:22:35 -0600
    To: Martin Hepworth <maxsec@gmail.com>
    
    

    Martin Hepworth wrote:
    > Hi
    >
    > On 10/30/05, Csaba Henk <csaba-ml@creo.hu> wrote:
    >
    >>Hi!
    >>
    >>We plan to set up a backup server.
    >>
    >>While the basic backup procedure is clear -- use some archiving utility
    >>like dump, tar, or cpio and send data to the backup server via ssh or a
    >>network mount -- there are many details which are unclear for me.
    >>
    >>The two biggest problems are:
    >>
    >>1) What parts are to be backed up? If I backup the whole system, the
    >>backup disk will get full soon. You could say it's not necessary, and
    >>that only the valueable data should be backed up (and not those parts
    >>which are easy to re-create by means of a new installation). But, say,
    >>someone breaks into the machince. How could I reliably find out the
    >>Achilles heel she used to get in if I don't have a complete system
    >>backup? Or if she has a backdoor left behind?
    >
    >
    >
    > Depends on what the risk you trying to mitigate with backup. Think of the
    > problems and how you would get around them. There are file consistency utils
    > you can run to see if root-kits etc have been installed.
    >
    > 2) How to schedule backups? I guess services should stop for the backup
    >
    >>period as the backup could be unreliable or inconsistent if disk/file
    >>writes were going on during backup. It sounds as if I should drop to
    >>single user mode. Or is there a less drastic approach? And if I dropped
    >>to single user mode, I would lose control over the box for that period,
    >>as the box is accessed via ssh and sshd is also stopped in single user
    >>mode -- this sounds scary...
    >
    >
    >
    > With FreeBSD 5.x and later you can snapshop the filesystem then use a
    > special 'dump' to backup that snapshot to the backup machine.
    >

    dump(8) will create a snapshot of a live filesystem, dump the snapshot
    and then remove the snapshot, if given the correct flags ('-L').

    > have a look at amanda and bacula for how they handle this and do some
    > research on different backup strategies and their risks and benfits wrt to
    > Unix systems - theres lots out there..
    >
    > --
    > Martin
    >
    >
    > TYA.
    >
    >>--
    >>Csaba Henk
    >>
    >>My sense of humour is often too subtle to cope with getting smileyd.
    >>Please don't take it personal.
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    Eric
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