RE: Does FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE support the 8237R?




-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-questions@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Danial Thom
Sent: vrijdag 2 juni 2006 18:28
To: Scott Hiemstra; 'FreeBSD-Questions Questions'
Subject: RE: Does FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE support the 8237R?

--- Scott Hiemstra <shiemstra@xxxxxx> wrote:

Did you say you are running a server? That MB is only suitable for
desktop use, as it has the slowest ethernet controller known to man
on a 32/33Mhz bus. Running this MB as a server is like putting
cheap, skinny tires on your porsche.

DT

Personaly, I appreciate your dedication to maximum performance but
please notice this thread is in reference to swapping a MB for another
MB and coments like yours are not appreciated.

Would you prefer if I had stated?

"I have the same board in a crappy server running 4.11 (FreeBSD
4.11-STABLE #0) and no problems to report."

Please notice I never said what the box was doing nor did I ask for
your opinion of what MB/NIC I use in my systems. This SERVER is pur-
pose built and runs stable 24/7 as a low volume outbound mail server
so the performance of the NIC is not my primary concern. Please keep
your useless comments to yourself as they do nothing but waste disk
space, CPU time and the valuable time of people who attempt to help
others on this list.

Scott

So if someone is planning on using a crappy motherboard as a server its
not appropriate to mention that the replacement is not suitable for the
task? So since you're replacing the MB, why not take the opportunity to
use something suitable.

Because it means introducing a whole slew of new, unknown variables. :)

When I first installed 4.10R, it did not even support the 8237; and disk
performance on that board was limited to a terribly slow Multi-World DMA 2
mode (I think it was that; very slow, at least). So, imagine my delight
when 4.11-STABLE supported the 8237 at last. Buying a newer type
motherboard for 4.11-STABLE (where would you find one for socket 754, so
soon replaced by socket 939, anyway?) would likely mean an unsupported
south-bridge chip, and being back to square one. Nope. I'm gonna stick
with what works for 4.11-STABLE (as that is still my preferred FreeBSD
version; and if I cannot find a new motherboard after the new one dies, I
will just continue to run the whole thing in a Vmware box).

As for the LAN, since I only have a 100 Mb network, I see no reason to
assume even a less than ideal performing gigabit LAN would slow things
down (unless its performance dropped below 10%; and I'm sure it's not that
bad).

In fact, not to be unnecessarily contrary, but I would ere say this
motherboard is totally unsuited for desktop use (I have a shiny P5WD2
Premium for that), and that this board is rather ideally suited for a
FreeBSD 4.11 system.

- Mark

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