Re: Does FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE support the 8237R?



notice this thread is in reference to
swapping a MB for another MB and
coments like yours are not appreciated.


Please notice I never said what the box was
doing nor did I ask for your
opinion of what MB/NIC I use in my systems.

Makes no difference, he has as much right to
sound off as you do
as long as he sounds off on FreeBSD or a
directly related topic. This
is a public forum. If you don't like a post,
delete it.

So, I guess that means that the original poster
can spout off and say that
the response contained irrelevant and offensive
material if he wants as well.
Getting those types of responses is one way
that persons (at least some of
them who have sufficient perception) learn how
to make appropriate and
meaningful responses.

As I've said before on this mailing list,
freebsd-questions is a public
mailing list that is FREE support. You don't
"have it your way" you
"have it the responders way"

And the original poster subsequently became a
responder.

If you can shuck some pearls out of the
oyster bed here, your doing
better than most, but you have no right to
urinate all over the oyster
bed just because you don't find any pearls.

Wow, I am stunned.

If you want it "your way" I suggest you
investigate PAID support. There
are plenty of people out there taking money
for support, and they will
give you the support any way you want, on as
nice a silver platter and
bed of roses and as polite as you want.

Pecuniary reward is not the only reason to
learn how to make reasonable,
meaningful responses that are to the point of
the question and to be
able to understand the difference. Being able
to post responses that
are respected in the community is another
reward and may occasionally
require learning from peoples comments on the
quality of the responses.

////jerry


This SERVER is
purpose built
and runs stable 24/7 as a low volume
outbound mail server so
the performance
of the NIC is not my primary concern.

You have no need to justify what your doing
to him or to me or to
anybody.
Why bother doing it.

Please keep your useless
comments to
yourself as they do nothing but waste disk
space, CPU time and
the valuable
time of people who attempt to help others on
this list.

How is informing someone that they're wasting
their money on a MB a waste of time? I'm sure
you've wasted thousands of your employers dollars
with your ignorant recommendations, Jerry. I can
get hours of entertainment just googling you.

I think by now, people have lost track of who has posted what.
I think I have am already not sure which is which on the later posts.

I don't really care what the responses were. It is just
that Teddy got all flamey about the original poster telling
someone that their response was not helpful. Seems like he
likes to dish it out but isn't as big on lunching on his
own menu.

Of course, my post was almost as off-topic as Teddy's, but
it did apply to an extra comment made by the original poster.


Ok, here's a test to illustrate my point. I have
a server with a big file (352MB). 2 client
machines running the same version of Freebsd:

1) AMD 1.8Ghz Opteron - onboard bge controller:

Ftp results: 4MB/s

2) Intel 2.0Ghz Celeron 845 Chipset, onboard fxp
controller:

ftp results: 11MB/s

I think we'll all agree that a 1.8Ghz opteron is
substantially faster (and more expensive) then a
2.0Ghz Celeron? (or will Jerry ask me to prove
this also)? Its not rocket science. What good is
the extra horsepower of the cpu doing you if
you're using a crap controller? Its mindless
stupidity; which is about what you'd expect from
a sys admin, and not an engineer. The problem
with this list is that its all sys admins, so
learning from other idiots just causes you to be
just as stupid at your "teachers".

I haven't asked anyone to prove anything. What you say may be true.
So what. The original poster just said it is irrelevant to the
question asked. Seemed to take a little offense too that seemed a
little excessively touchy, but that's his business.

////jerry


DT

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