Re: FreeBSD challenged by Internet


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From: <perryh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tedm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD challenged by Internet


I doubt there is any reasonably priced ISP that will help in
troubleshooting a problem that's not reproducible on Windows.

$19.95 a month for DSL (ISP charges) is not reasonably priced?
WTF?

Dunno about your neck of the woods, but last time I checked around
here Verizon was charging something like $5 or $10 a month more for
just the DSL line to connect to a third-party ISP than for the whole
package using their own ISP. Makes it difficult for independents to
compete, at least on price :(

Well, if your not willing to pay the extra $5 or $10 a month to connect
your FreeBSD system to DSL then I have to seriously question your
leel of commitment to decent Internet service. What I don't get is I
see guys walking in dropping $1000 on associated Mac hardware crap
without blinking, then they squawk about paying an additional $9
a month on DSL? That grand on Mac crap will pay for 9 years of DSL at
this so-called "unreasonable" rate.

In any case, that pricing delta only exists if the independent hasn't signed
a wholesale agreement with Verizon. If the independent has, it's a whole
different ball game, pricing is completely different and quite a bit less.

Basically IMHO the Verizon pricing program was designed to push the
really tiny independents, ie: the guys that might have a grand total
of 5 or 10 Verizon DSL customers, off of their network. (and
it worked well I think) Verizon didn't want independent ISPs that
wern't willing to put investment dollars into their interconnect to stay
on their network. And I really can't say I blame them to be perfectly
honest. The days of a guy starting an ISP in his garage for $500 and
a pile of old networking gear he pulled out of a Dumpster behind some
tech corporation are over.

Ted

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