Re: replacing GNATS?

Hi, Alexander

Please note that as I am replying to your questions, I am in no
position to do so. I do not (nor do I wish to appear to) represent
the FreeBSD project in the respect your questions are asked.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Alexander
Best<alexbestms@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
thanks for the link. although this wasn't the interview i was referring to the
announcement is great news.

i don't quite understand though why there's the need to create a completely
new bug tracking system. is this due to technical issues or rather a matter of
not wanting to use what all the others are using? or to be more precise: a
matter of pride.


I doubt it is a matter of pride, but more technical reasons. The bug
tracking system for the FreeBSD project needs to be very specific --
who has what PR, which PRs are untouched, which PR was resolved by
which SVN commit, etc, etc. This is in addition to the 'separation'
of the bugs -- networking, kernel, documentation, ports, and so on.

quite often i've been thinking: dealing with freebsd in general could be so
much easier if somebody just said: "alright! this is the way to go!"

a lot of problems aren't really taken take of, but people talk about it for
ages not wanting to let go of ancient software e.g.


In a BSDTalk podcast interviewing a few of the core team members, this
topic was brought up, and explained in some detail [1]. The situation
mentioned was the conversion from cvs to subversion, and how a change
like that, as easy as it may sound on paper, really is not a matter of
a simple code repository conversion -- there were a lot of things to
consider. As I previously mentioned, I do not attempt to represent
anyone in the decision making process for the project, but I think it
is a safe assumption that these same considerations need to be taken
into account for other major changes.

[snip]

or take bug reports in general. everybody's concentrating on adding new
features to HEAD or participates in endless discussions about some unimportant
technical stuff where basically everybody tries to show off their tech
knowledge.


You sound like you're getting off topic to your own thread here...

there are PR reports with patches included which solve critical and sometimes
ancient bugs, but nobody's taking care of them. i know people who've been
trying to use freebsd since 4.X, but were unable due to a panic which has been
analysed and patched. the patch however never made it into the repository,
because nobody seems to care.


Could you provide some examples?

it's no big secret that submitting bug reports is basically a waste of time.

How so?

if you have a patch for a problem and want to get it committed into HEAD or
STABLE you have to get in contact with somebody who has write access to svn.


Isn't that where filing a PR comes in?

[1] - http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/2009/05/bsdtalk173-few-freebsd-core-team.html

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Glen Barber
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