Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

On Thu, 5 May 2011 19:27:03 -0500, Antonio Olivares <olivares14031@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Now, another question. I was thinking about this. Should I have
popped in a dvd and just used it to upgrade?

I've never tried that, but it _should_ be possible to
"overwrite" an existing installation (e. g. 8.1) with
the files of the newer one (e. g. 8.2); however I would
consider this a bad approach.



Should I have run
# make buildworld
or some magical command(s) that will build the system against newer
binaries and newer ports so that the system works better and
optimized?


Depends. If you want to follow -RELEASE _and_ you do
not need a custom kernel, use freebsd-upgrade to use
the binary way. If you _intendedly_ want to use source
based updates to use -STABLE (or even -CURRENT) and (or)
you need a custom kernel that requires compiling, using
the source is the better way.

Personally, I do both. On servers for example, I upgrade
the binary way on -RELEASE, then rebuild the ports (after
upgrading the ports tree, of course). On my testing system
that I use to try out "bleeding edge" software and where
I also want a custom kernel (due to some specific hardware),
I use the source Luke.



I have limited experience using FreeBSD :(, have used it on and off
since release 5.3 with KDE 3.4/3.5 series. I installed it and had
dialup at home tried to get the ltmodem port working, but did not
succeed :(, and I left it as pristine as it was.

I have also started using FreeBSD with dialup (real PPP with
modem), but this one was a regular serial one which worked
out of the box - not as the crap usually assembled into "modern"
laptops...



I also got a
BSDLiveCD : by Scott Ullrich:

http://livebsd.com/

There's also FreeSBIE, one of the famous FreeBSD live system
CDs (which I traditionally use for diagnostics and test).



\begin{quote}
Inception
LiveBSD was founded by Scott Ullrich and Chris Buechler in January
2004. It started its life as an open source project, modifying
FreeSBIE scripts to build FreeBSD-based live CD's. A name was decided
on, and the domain registered on February 28, 2004. The first LiveBSD
Desktop CD was released at that time, a KDE desktop live CD based on
FreeBSD 5.2, built using modified FreeSBIE scripts.
\end{quote}

Sounds interesting, thanks for mentioning it!



I really liked it and used it at school. However the project died/was
unsupported, it appears FreeSBIE has not had much love either.

You can build your own live system CD if needed - there are
excellent tools for that. So once you got a system configured
the way you want, you can follow this idea and make a "portable
system" from that.



So far it has not prompted me for any configurations. Had done that
for two/three days with the previous command:

# portupgrade -af

This will stop on any point a configuration is needed.



Then
# freebsd-update install

Shouldn't you upgrade the system PRIOR TO the ports?
The order is recommended as system -> ports tree -> ports.



but the ports/packages were still for old 8.1 release :(,

Yes, as you've updated them on 8.1, and THEN you got the
system to 8.2.



now I have
updated ports tree with
# portsnap fetch
# portsnap extract
and
# portsnap install

That's correct.

Just as a sidenote: There is another way to upgrade the ports
tree, the "traditional one" from the days before portsnap:

Step 1: Add this to /etc/make.conf:

SUP_UPDATE= yes
SUP= /usr/bin/csup
SUPFLAGS= -g -L 2
SUPHOST= cvsup.freebsd.org
PORTSSUPFILE= /etc/sup/ports.sup

Step 2: Create /etc/sup/ports.sup:

*default host=cvsup.freebsd.org
*default base=/var/db
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=.
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
ports-all

Note: You can use a different cvsup host and can also exclude
port categories from being updated (e. g. for languages you
do not use, or kinds of programs you are not interested in).
See /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile for more details,
it's very well documented (here: in comments).

Step 3: Perform the update

# cd /usr/ports
# make update

Now you have a _current_ ports tree.

Note: A similar method works for the system sources. Add

SUPFILE= /etc/sup/stable.sup

to /etc/make.conf and create /etc/sup/stable.sup like this:

*default host=cvsup.freebsd.org
*default base=/var/db
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
src-all

This will give you 8-CURRENT. Use "tag=RELENG_8.0" for 8.0-pX
(security branch, just as freebsd-update would do), and if you
need RELEASE, use "tag=RELENG_8.0.0".

Then,

# cd /usr/src
# make update
# make buildworld buildkernel

See /usr/src/Makefile (comment section) for which make targets
are defined and in which order you must proceed for a system
upgrade based on sources.



and running :

# portupgrade -arRp

I hope that it would finish soon.

Depends on your computer's power and which ports are
currently installed. :-)



I don't know enough like I would
like to.

You will easily "learn by doing".



Sadly :( except for installing some ports [cd
/usr/ports/editor/some-package/, make install clean] and the package
would build after configuring some stuff :), but now the stuff was
overwhelming :( and I would have preferred to learn a quick and not
too painful way of updating :) But this is part of learning and I
will take it in stride.

If you want to intendedly build a "big port" from source as
you've correctly mentioned, use the command

# make config-recursive

before the build. This will make sure all dependencies are
checked for "make config" screens, and they are visited
first. Then, run

# make install

to perform the actual install which will then NOT be interrupted
by a "make config" screen.



It is building new documentation packages handbook for several
languages some new packages and it is moving nicely :)

You can easily configure _which_ languages you want the
documentation for.



--
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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