Re: NForce2 + FreeBSD

From: Igor B. Bykhalo (goshik_at_binep.ac.ru)
Date: 07/28/03

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    To: "Sergey A. Gribchenko" <gsa@gsa.kiev.ua>
    Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:55:33 +0400
    
    

    From: "Sergey A. Gribchenko" <gsa@gsa.kiev.ua>
    To: <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
    Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:43 PM
    Subject: NForce2 + FreeBSD

    > Hello,
    >
    > Is this possible to install drivers for this hardware under FreeBSD,
    > and begginig from which version?
    >
    > Motherboard Epox 8RDA3+ (NForce2)
    >
    > none0@pci0:0:1: class=0x050000 card=0x10001695 chip=0x01eb10de rev=0xc1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
    > device = 'nForce2 Memory Controller 1'
    [...]

    Sergey, i don't have an answer for particular drivers,
    but you may be interested in the following message
    (in case you missed it):

    From: "Bill Paul" <wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG>
    To: <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>; <freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG>; <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
    Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:29 PM
    Subject: nVidia nForce2 potential owners please read (take two)

    > This only made it to one list the first time, trying again. These
    > newfangled computer things clearly can't be trusted.
    >
    > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > Ok, so, it occured to me recently to try to convince nVidia to cough
    > up programming documentation for their MCP ethernet controller.
    >
    > However, in order to do that, I need to be able to show that
    > there is in fact sufficient demand for a FreeBSD (or even NetBSD
    > or OpenBSD) driver to make it worth their while. nVidia doesn't
    > listen to end users, only OEMs, and if the OEMs don't ask for
    > support for a given OS, then support will not materialize. My
    > goal is to convince them to pull their heads far enough out from
    > between their legs to realize that Linux is not the be-all, end-all
    > of open source, and that just because OEMs haven't mentioned
    > FreeBSD, NetBSD or OpenBSD by name doesn't mean there aren't
    > people who want MCP ethernet support in BSD.
    >
    > For this, I need your help. What I need is to gather proof of
    > demand. What I want you do to is e-mail me (oh god, I can't believe
    > I'm setting myself up for this) if:
    >
    > - You wanted to purchase a computer system with an nVidia nForce2
    > chipset but _didn't_ once you realized there was no BSD driver
    > support for the on-board ethernet.
    >
    > - You bought an nVidia nForce2 system without realizing the on-board
    > ethernet wasn't supported in BSD, were really disappointed once
    > you found out, and complained to the manufacturer _OR_ you wanted
    > to complain but didn't (because you weren't sure who to complain
    > to, or you didn't get around to it yet, or you forgot, or you were
    > abducted by aliens, or your dog ate your homework, or whatever).
    >
    > - You are in a position to approve or recommend the purchase of
    > a computer system (or several systems) for your company, research
    > group, espionage organization or other institution with money to
    > spend, but won't because there's no BSD driver support for the
    > on-board ethernet.
    >
    > - You never heard of nVidia, the nForce2 or the MCP ethernet controller
    > until I mentioned them, but now that you have, and you've gone out
    > and searched the interweb or visited your local computer store, you
    > think they're all really spiffy and would happily buy an nForce2
    > system, but will hold off until there's a BSD driver for the
    > on-board ethernet.
    >
    > - You want to give me free large bags of cash.
    >
    > Do *NOT* e-mail me if:
    >
    > - You want me to help you transfer a large sum of money out of Nigeria
    > or some other African nation.
    >
    > - You think I'm dying of cancer and my dying wish is to collect
    > e-mails from all over the world.
    >
    > - You think I want to MAKE MONEY FAST (if I wanted to do that,
    > I wouldn't be writing device drivers for free).
    >
    > - You work for SCO or the RIAA.
    >
    > I think you get the idea. Consider it a petition of sorts. All I
    > need is an e-mail from you, with a line or two explaining your
    > particular circumstances. If you did not buy an nForce2-based
    > computer due to lack of BSD support, say so. If you did, but you
    > were pissed by the lack of BSD support, say so. If you told your
    > friends, relatives, cow-orkers or purchasing office not to buy
    > nForce2-based computers because of the lack of BSD support, say so.
    > Cite the OEM vendor of the computer (or computer) and the model
    > (or models) where appropriate. If more than one computer was
    > involved, say how many.
    >
    > Every lost sale or dissatisfied customer I can present as evidence
    > makes it that much easier to convince nVidia to unclench its
    > tight... fists... and provide the documentation needed to write
    > a BSD driver.
    >
    > NOTE: Please do make up phony e-mails just to bloat the figures or
    > or cobble together a perl script to send me hundreds of auto-generated
    > messages from forged addresses. Play nice, you scum.
    >
    > So, send your cards and letters to wpaul@freebsd.org. And don't be
    > afraid to spread the word. Ask other people on other mailing lists.
    > Ask your friends. Ask your enemies. Ask not what your OS can do for
    > you: ask what you can do for your OS.
    >
    > -Bill
    >
    > --
    > =============================================================================
    > -Bill Paul (510) 749-2329 | Senior Engineer, Master of Unix-Fu
    > wpaul@windriver.com | Wind River Systems
    > =============================================================================
    > "If stupidity were a handicap, you'd have the best parking spot."
    > =============================================================================

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