Re: how to remote update 4.10 -> 5.3?

From: Palle Girgensohn (girgen_at_pingpong.net)
Date: 12/29/04

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To: Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>

    --On onsdag, december 29, 2004 13.01.10 -0800 Brooks Davis
    <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net> wrote:

    > On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 09:49:10PM +0100, Palle Girgensohn wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> --On onsdag, december 29, 2004 12.36.01 -0800 Brooks Davis
    >> <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net> wrote:
    >>
    >> > On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 09:30:37PM +0100, Palle Girgensohn wrote:
    >> >> Has anyone managed to update a 4.10 system to 5.3 remotely, i.e.
    >> >> without console access, and without spare disk partitions?
    >> >>
    >> >> I have a bunch of 4.10 machines that are too far away for me to
    >> >> actually do the update hands on. I've tried it on a test machine, it
    >> >> fails half way through installworld, and really needs single user
    >> >> mode to succeed. The install procedure fails since it starts using
    >> >> the newly installed stuff, things like sh(1) and test(1), and they
    >> >> cannot find their libc.so.5, I guess...
    >> >>
    >> >> One idea I have is copying / and /usr to some other place and set
    >> >> ldconfig and PATH=some/other/place and when building and installing.
    >> >> Haven't tried it yet, thought I'd hear anyone on this list has a
    >> >> better suggestion?
    >> >>
    >> >> Optimally, there would a couple of gigs on a separate spare disk
    >> >> partition so I could just install everything there and use it upon
    >> >> reboot. Problem is, there is no such space. :(
    >> >
    >> > In general, my suggestion would be, don't do that. Do you really need
    >> > to upgrade? Remember, 4.11 is likely to be supported for security
    >> > upgrades into early 2006 so if your machines are working and you don't
    >> > really need the new functionality, I'd suggest avoiding an upgrade.
    >>
    >> Well, I need wide char support, as in iswlower and the likes. Maybe I
    >> could use some portability lib or similar...? Ideas?
    >>
    >> BTW, do you mean that 5.3 is not stable enough, or just that it is a
    >> nuisance to upgrade? While I agree that 4.10 is very stable, a lot of
    >> things have improved with 5.x...
    >
    > If you need the improved wide char support, then you will probably have
    > to upgrade. 5.3 is generally stable, but I personally think upgrading
    > for 4.x by any method other then a new install is a bad idea. It's
    > certaintly possiable, but not trivial. I believe the instructions in
    > UPDATING should work, but I've never tried them remotely.

    I've tried the UPDATING instructions, both locally and remotely (the latter
    failed ;-). But really, everything has to be reinstalled, ports and the
    lot, so a new install is probably the best way...

    Thanks for you input anyway!

    /Palle

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