Re: INET6 -- and why I don't use it



On Sunday 09 March 2008 20:41:51 Kevin Oberman wrote:
From: JoaoBR <joao@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:19:33 -0300

your computer will or better CAN use ipv6 when it is on a ipv6 network
and nothing else, ipv6 WILL NOT come eventually available on your ipv4
network (unless it's address space change ...)

I'm unclear on the last sentence. I can assure you that IPv6 WILL come
to your IPv4 network. It's not 'if' but 'when'. I am regularly amazed to
see the number of people who bury their heads in the sand and claim it
won't.


Hi
I am not saying that ipv6 is not coming but I am saying that as long as your
network is ipv4 you do not need to care


this has nothing to do with vista or dawn, this is a routing issue and
as long as you are NOT on a ipv6 network you do NOT need ipv6 on our
machine, still beeing able to access ipv6 networks ... as weel as ipv6
networls can access ipv4 networlks guys, if not so all this ipv[4|6]
stuff wouldn't make any sense ...

Whether you need to or not, you WILL have it if you run Vista. Read up
on Teredo tunnels. You can turn this off on Vista, but it is on by
default and every Vista system not configured to turn it off WILL run
IPv6 regardless of what network it is connected to.

well, fedora and FreeBSD also but you do not need it, windows does install
netbeui netbios and simlare things by default which you do not neeed either
on the internet and probably will disable or uninstall them



Whether you need IPv6 is debatable. If you want to see the Kame dancing
turtle, you will need IPv6. There are a very few specialized locations
that are IPv6-only, but they are of little or no general interest. None
the less, if you have Vista up and running or FreeBSD with the
appropriate setup (6to4), your can reach them even if your network
connection is IPv4 only.

I am not sure if this correct, ipv4 to ipv6 and viceversa is be done by TRT
(RFC3142) routers which are supposed to run on the border of such networks or
by whom provides both protocols, as enduser you do not need to care about
connectivity to each protocol


I'm afraid I couldn't parse the latter part of this paragraph. (Still,
your English is far better than my Portuguese.)

:) then let's stay with it

I think it is very easy, you need ipv6 when you are on or connected to an ipv6
network, otherwise not


FWIW, I run a full production IPv6 network and have been working with
IPv6 since it was still being developed by the IETF. It's far from
perfect and, in fact, I am quite disappointed on how it came out, but it
is what it is and, as of today, it is the only game in town that can
move us to beyond the end of IPv4 address space availability. Live with
it or live in the expensive past. (IPv4 addresses will soon get
very expensive as the supply runs out.)

well, I guess the question is not if it works or not but when and where you
need it


--

João







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