[HPADM] Re: OT: Thoughts on Linux, Future? or not?
From: Deepak John Cutinha (deepak_cutinha_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 07/18/04
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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 03:04:27 -0700 (PDT)
To: Stephanie Chung <stepchung@yahoo.com>, "Ayson, Alison {Info~Palo Alto}" <alison.ayson@ROCHE.COM>, hpux <hpux-admin@dutchworks.nl>
I agree with Alison and Stephanie...
I am also working with HPUX Solaris & Linux...
But I feel Linux has a long way to go before
we call it the best OS available...
I often hear this term cheaper...
I never figured out how cheaper..maybe I donot have
the skills to find that out...
I am being forced to adopt Linux and the crowd around
me is all ga ga over Linux...???
I still want to be loyal to the good world of Solaris
& HPUX...sad that a tested and trusted OS is being
sidelined....
Just my views...
Deepak Cutinha
--- Stephanie Chung <stepchung@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Alison,
>
> "Amen!" You really nailed this issue. I don't
> understand why people are crazy about "Linux". They
> don't look at the big picture. Linux is not a big
> deal
> after all. I work with HPUX, Linux and Solaris. If
> my
> boss pushes me to go with Linux on our critical
> production environment, I will resign before I get
> fired. Linux security and support are a huge pain in
> the neck. In my 5 years with HPUX, Linux and
> Solaris,
> I got hacked in 36 times on Linux, 14 times on
> Solaris
> and ZERO time on HPUX. “Cheap” is not a
> solution. In the long run, “Cheap” will
> come back and bite you big time. My comment is
> “if you have a good and secured system, stick
> with it. Do not change to Linux.”
>
> Stephanie
>
> --- "Ayson, Alison {Info~Palo Alto}"
> <alison.ayson@ROCHE.COM> wrote:
> > I haven't posted in awhile so I hope "OT" is still
> > the right symbol for
> > "Off Topic"
> >
> > I've been an HP-UX administrator for over 10 years
> > (some Solaris and SGI
> > too, but mostly HP-UX). Lately there has been a
> big
> > push within our
> > company to look at Linux, specifically RedHat (AS
> > 3.0 and 2.1). It
> > seems that everyone wants to jump on the Linux
> > bandwagon, but I'm not
> > convinced Linux is the all-encompassing solution
> > that so many seem to
> > think it is.
> >
> > The biggest motivation for moving to Linux is
> > financial (from the
> > "higher ups" that is). The hardware is cheaper
> and
> > so is the OS.
> > However, it's been my experience--so far at
> > least--that what you save in
> > hardware and software you quickly use up in Sys
> > Admin time. I have
> > spent so many hours trying to get a particular
> > driver to load, or a
> > piece of "freeware" software to compile; something
> > that would have taken
> > minutes on an HP-UX server. And support from
> RedHat
> > is a joke! The
> > quickest response I've gotten so far to a reported
> > problem was 72 hours
> > (usually it's 2 weeks, one question has been
> pending
> > for 3 months no
> > with no response). Luckily we bought 1 year of
> > support from HP for one
> > of our Linux servers; I can get an answer from HP
> > fairly quickly. So far
> > we have very few Linux servers so I haven't gotten
> > overwhelmed----yet.
> > However if I had 20 or so linux servers to
> maintain,
> > and everytime I had
> > to make some sort of change to that server I had
> to
> > spend hours
> > recompiling the kernel or whatever...the situation
> > could quickly become
> > a nightmare.
> >
> > I wondered what some of the other HP Sys Admins
> out
> > there think about
> > Linux? Have your experiences been positive or
> have
> > you experienced some
> > of the same difficulties.
> >
> > Thanks for any feedback.
> >
> > -- Alison Ayson
> > Roche Bioscience
> > Palo Alto, CA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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