SUMMARY: Solaris + USB 2.0 IDE disk + NTFS = problems ?

From: Grzegorz Bakalarski (G.Bakalarski_at_icm.edu.pl)
Date: 04/15/04

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    Dear Friends!

    Here is summary on the topic in "subject".
    Unfortunately I was right. Most agreed "no way
    on solaris sparc". Some suggested linux box.
    (We tried this but our standard distribution of linux
    did not work - one needs SCSI support enabled for USB
    storage and also ntfs support (which was not default
    in suse 8.2)). Linux by Sun i.e. Sun Java Desktop should
    work with ntfs but I'm not sure if with USB 2.0 Storage.
    Finally I gave up and borrowed a laptop with USB 2.0
    and MS Windows XP. Then I copied data (80GB) through the net.

    Original question & detailed summary follows.

    Great thanks to all who tried to help. All you are great!

    GB

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    I have a following problem:
                                                                                                                  
    our supplier of data sent us data on IDE harddisk in USB 2.0
    enclosure. The disk has NTFS file system. We are almost MS Windows
    free site. But the vendor is almost MS Windows only site.
    I have new V440 with Solaris 9 12/03 which has 4 USB 2.0 ports.
    I found on SunSolve that Solaris can "talk" with USB 2.0 Storage
    devices. But the problem is NTFS. I found only support
    for FAT32 (pcfs). Nothing about NTFS and Solaris Sparc.
    Is there any way to read data (from NTFS file system) directly on my
    V440 ? Or should I look for laptop with USB 2.0 ? Any other solutions?

    -------------- A -----------------------

    1) From Michael.Horton

    The sun java desktop "live" cdrom disc will permit one to manually mount
    an ntfs partition and manipulate files. The sjd "live" disc is a
    freebie. Ask your sun rep for a copy.
                                                                                                                  
    A full installation of sun java desktop should have the same
    capabilities as well as other linux distributions. (sjd is Suse 8.x)

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    2) From: Casper ***

    You could use it on a PC and use something like
    partition magic to convert to FAT32 format;
    or ask teh vendor to reship on in UDF format or
    ISO format. Linux, I think, has some NTFS support.
                                                                                                                  
    Casper

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    3) From: Ryan Krenzischek

    You need to look for a machine running Windows NT or better and get the
    information off of the drive.
                                                                                                                  
    Ryan

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    4) From joe_fletcher

    If you can get hold of a linux system then it's capabale of reading NTFS.
    Failing that
    find a PC, hook the drive up and copy the contents across via SAMBA or
    similar.
                                                                                                                  
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    5) From: Tim Chipman

    FYI, USB2.0 is backwards compatible to USB1 spec, so you can plug the
    device on any PC which has USB. IF the PC doesn't support USB2.0 the
    bandwidth/throughput will be slower, of course, but it should still work...

    in the future // if at all possible, the folks at the remote site should
    (ideally) use FAT32 filesystem on this drive, since it is a "non secure"
    filesystem and more accessible to other operating systems. Or, consider
    using some more "standard" intermediate format (such as burned CD or DVD
    discs, with data archived into .zip or .tar files as desired to preserve
    longnames / user owner info etc etc as desired).

    IIRC there are ways to mount NTFS on linux without too much trouble, and
    even to do so with read-write access ... however, I don't recall that
    this is so easily done on Solaris (alas).

    Hope this helps a bit,

    Tim

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    6) From: Jason Grove

    Solaris can not read NTFS. Only options are a PC/laptop with windows or
    maybe a linux box that can read ntfs.

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    7) From: David Foster

    Check out the mtools package, it's kinda old but lets
    you read DOS/Windows data under older versions of Solaris.
                                                                                                                  
    Dave Foster

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    8) From: Peter Stokes
                                                                                                                  
    As far as I know NTFS is a problem with Solaris. Suggest you go down the
    PC system route, or maybe Linux. The later Linux systems can read NTFS
    disks.
                                                                                                                  
    Peter

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