Summary: Autoloader solution

From: Z H (ssefoen_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 07/25/05

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    Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:02:56 -0700 (PDT)
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    Thanks to all the responsers:

    fan@cns.nyu.edu
    Robert_E_Falen@raytheon.com
    Scott Lawson" <Scott.Lawson@manukau.ac.nz>
    Brad_Morrison@capgroup.com
    Tim Evans" <tkevans@tkevans.com>
    Dragan Cvetkovic" <me@privacy.net>

    Paul suggests to use LTO3 since it is available but
    the capacity double.

    >From Eric, suggest Overland robotic tape libraries or
    StorageTec
    robotoic tape libraries

    Eric stress "BE VERY sure the tape library you chose
    AND
    the interface HBA are supported by both the tape
    vendor and the
    software vendor". A very important point to make sure
    the compatbility among hardware and software.

    >From Scott, suggest sun L25(It's a Quantum ATL unit)

    Brad has very good comment on my question and here it
    is to share:

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    I can't really speak to the technical specs you posted
    without knowing what your backup requirements are,
    e.g., how much data needs to be backed up in what time
    window, etc. I recommend that you find out before you
    buy anything--it really sucks to have bought hardware
    that won't do what you need it to do. Look out for
    data growth, also, and build this into your proposal,
    i.e., include information on why this purchase will
    satisfy your current requirements, and forecast when
    you'll need to buy more.

    I can say that ufsdump will work with this autoloader,
    but you'll need to wrap it in a script: ufsdump, by
    itself, will prompt for another tape, but you can
    capture this request and act on it with simple mt(1)
    commands. You need a script that will catch ufsdump's
    request, tell the loader to change to the next tape,
    then tell ufsdump to continue. Several people have
    mentioned hostsdump.sh as a solution. I prefer to use
    Expect, which is free (nist.gov) and easy to use. The
    easiest way is to run Expect in "record" mode, then go
    through a sample session by hand. Then edit the
    resulting script to add variables.

    I strongly suggest using Amanda (amanda.org). It's a
    very robust backup solution, uses dump or tar, it's
    also free, and it has excellent support for holding
    disks: designate a large filesystem for Amanda to dump
    to, then let Amanda roll these dumps off to tape at
    your discretion. In this way, you make the best use of
    your tapes, and the urgent restore requests like "I
    need my directory tree to look just like it did
    yesterday" are satisfied by restoring from disk, not
    tape. The trade-off is that you'll have to tweak it
    pretty thoroughly to get it to do the typical
    incrementals-all-week-then-fulls-on-the-weekend
    schedule. Amanda out of the box will figure out its
    own backup schedule--workable, but probably not what
    you're used to. The good news is that there are
    several published modification sets for traditional
    backup schedules. Amanda recognizes
    *every*single*tape*machine out there--the contributors
    are constantly adding and updating its database of
    known machines and their behavior. The mailing list is
    very active, even moreso than sun-managers.

    Regarding the "next" tape problem with autoloaders: If
    this unit is a simple stacker, watch out for how it
    behaves when you get to the last tape. If it goes
    right to the first tape, you'll need tape labels or
    some other strategy to prevent over-writing a valid
    tape. If it's a robot, you're almost certainly safe,
    given that you're probably relying on barcodes--in
    that case, though, ufsdump + one or more scripts is
    probably not going to cut it. Amanda has support for
    bar codes, and it always writes its own label on file
    one of the tape. After that, it's just one dump (or
    tar archive) after another. I don't know of any other
    free backup software that does labelling.

    I just read up on the Magnum 1x7. Nice. Barcode
    support, and now they have an LT03 model.

    Final Opinion: Looks like a great machine. Make sure
    you have the software to drive it properly.

    ------------------------------------------

    Dragan has similar configuration and use mtx and
    Amanda tools.

    the system we use mtx for loader controller (check
    http://mtx.badtux.net/) in combination with amanda
    backup program
    (http://www.amanda.org/). Both are free, but you have
    to tweak and
    write
    your own stuff. Beware that amanda doesn't do
    multi-volumes so if your
    backup doesn't fit onto a single tape, you have to
    find some other
    methods.

    Original question:

    To All Helpers:

    I am planning to implement tape autoloader LTO2
    solution for system backup and would like to hear some
    successful or not so successful stories about your
    experience with autoloader vendors.

    I am planning to install it on V880 system running
    Solaris 2.8 and currently is studying Exabyte Magnum
    1x7 LTO2 Tape Autoloader. (would like to know whether
    this is a good one for you or not if you use one
    before)

    The capacity that I am looking for is around 1.4TB
    native, 2.8 TB compressed mode.

    Also on the software side, I like to know whether I
    can use ufsdump to control the autoloader or I need to
    buy software program to do it.

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