Re: Basics of attaching a PC
From: Jim Agnew - VCU/MCV Neurosurgery (jpagnew_at_vcu.edu)
Date: 07/08/03
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 12:29:30 -0400
Your system should be no problem. 7.3 docco's still help out people
running 5.5-2 systems...
Your best friend is the HELP command. It's thinking is different from
the Unix man command, the man docs are uh, er, ok, they are reference
manuals, meant to be read and reread.. That why you have to dig at 'em
a little.
the VMS Help commmand is oriented more towards user manuals, that is,
they answer the questions of "how do I code this command to get it to
work more or less the way I want it."
and then, the docs on html or bookreader are the "man pages" that you
read to understand what you just did to your system disk!!!! (chuckle
meant here.)
to quote a person somewhere,
"to enter a command as root(SYSTEM), should be a zen moment, a pause for
reflection before hitting return"
Jim
Rodney Carter wrote:
>
> Thank you for pointing me to the web for docs. I found them and will be reading all nite.
> Now, the ones I found at the DEC/HP site are for version 7.2/7.3. In my Microsoft world,
> exact identical functions are given different names as they change versions each year--it
> is crazy because you have to learn the same thing 5 different ways. Is this going to be a
> consideration in that I am using open VMS version 6.2? Am I wasting time reading 7.3
> manuals for a 6.2 OS?
>
> Sorry about the RTFM remark but I had seen several answers to questions in a forum with
> knowledgeable people being arrogant I'm tired and stressed and just don't need that type of
> response. I need help (from gracious people such as I have found here) and not people
> pointing out the fact that I don't know what I'm doing. If I can find the answers myself, I
> will but if I ask a question, I need help.
>
> Hoff Hoffman wrote:
>
> > In article <3F09A059.F83B6750@yahoo.com>, Rodney Carter <rtcarter401@yahoo.com> writes:
> > :I am a lowly Microsoft/Novell admin who has been thrown into the deep
> > :end. I don't mind doing my homework but I need some basic help. Please
> > :don't say RTFM because I can find no FM in this shop.
> >
> > Um, RTFM? :-) Seriously. :-) You do have access to a website
> > with HTML-format manuals for OpenVMS and DECwindows. You have
> > access to most of (all of?) the Fine Manuals, in other words.
> >
> > You will want to acquire at least CD copies of the manuals, too.
> > It's difficult to run most any non-trivial software platform without
> > having local copies of the relevent documentation and/or manuals.
> > And you waste more time.
> >
> > :..The openVMS version is 6.2 and the transport is
> > :TCP/IP and use Humingbird Exceed.... We have bought upgrade PCs and
> > :I have tried to mirror the setups of the old systems. There are no
> > :new user accounts--just the old ones. Logging on with an old account,
> > :I get the following error:
> > :
> > :%DECW-E-CANT_OPEN_DISPL, Can't open display
> > :INTERnet ACP AUXS failure Status=%DECW-E-NOMSG
> >
> > SHOW DISPLAY will display the target display for DECwindows.
> > This should be the X Windows Server; the Exceed IP host.
> >
> > :I can telnet to the server and login OK with an existing account but
> > :when the application tries to access a drawing I get the error:
> > :
> > :Error while initializing graphics device
> >
> > Use ICO (RUN DECW$EXAMPLES:ICO.EXE) for troubleshooting X Windows
> > displays, as ICO provides some fairly reasonable X Windows error
> > messages.
> >
> > :From my research, I understand that I need to define the new PCs in
> > :Security. But I haven't figured out just how, yet.
> >
> > The setting is usually one in the X Windows server (Exceed), as
> > the security is set up in the X Windows server. Look around in
> > the session manager menus, or whatever Exceed calls this stuff.
> >
> > :Can someone layout the basic steps I need to take to install a PC node
> > :into the VAX system? Just general--I'll work hard at finding the specifics.
> > :Something like:
> > :1. Define the PC in the VMS security.
> >
> > Nope. Configure at the X Windows server; in Exceed.
> >
> > :2. Define the VMS servers in Exceed.
> >
> > Nope. Usually SET DISPLAY on OpenVMS, either directly or in the
> > LOGIN.COM or SYLOGIN.COM command procedure, or in a site-specific
> > or application-specific command procedure.
> >
> > X Windows applications are clients of the server, and the server
> > (usually) runs on the appliance or host controlling and local to
> > the X Windows display itself.
> >
> > :3. Assign new PC to user account.
> >
> > Eh? Usually, the reverse is what you need and want -- the X Windows
> > Server (Exceed) needs to map to the remote hosts and username(s) and
> > transport(s) that will be establishing incoming X Windows display
> > sessions.
> >
> > Sometimes the most difficult part of this can be matching the case
> > or username syntax, and the X Windows server log files can be an
> > invaluable resource for troubleshooting failed connections and
> > security errors. And again, these are in the Exceed environment.
> >
> > :4. Whatever the next step would be...
> >
> > The DECwindows manuals are on the documentation website. Start with
> > the OpenVMS FAQ (qv: sig) and the documentation -- particularly the
> > DECwindows documentation, and then the system management and user's
> > guides within the OpenVMS manual set -- at the OpenVMS documentation
> > website.
> >
> > :I want to learn and I want this project so I've got to get some solid
> > :steps to show my boss progress. Can anyone help me or am I really out of
> > :my league with this?
> >
> > ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------
> > For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq
> > --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------
> > Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman OpenVMS Engineering hoff[at]hp.com
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