Re: Idiot (I know that's redundant) spammer
From: Carl Perkins (carl_at_gerg.tamu.edu)
Date: 08/05/03
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Date: 5 Aug 2003 16:22 CDT
VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG writes...
}In article <4AUG200319450253@gerg.tamu.edu>, carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) writes:
}>VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG writes...
}>}How do you configure that? I run IE and enter: file://C: and all I ever
}>}get is icons. The "preferrences" in the _F_ile menu is always gray (I'm
}>}told this means if cannot be selected and, of course, I cannot).
}>}--
}>}VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001 VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM
}>
}>Why, exactly, would you use IE for this?
}>
}>Use "E" (so to speak), just plain "Explorer", not "IE". Two completely
}>different programs. As in "double-click on My Computer not Internet Explorer".
}
}OK. And just how does "My Computer" now become "Explorer" sans the "Internet"?
}
}When one looks at the screen there is a PeeCee icon which says "My Computer",
}not "Explorer". If everybody is going to call everything "Explorer", how the
}hell do you ever figure out how to navigate this nightmare?
}--
}VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001 VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM
Well, first you should know that the way to navigate on your PC is to use
the "My Computer" icon, no matter what it is called or runs, and not IE.
You can use IE, but you shouldn't as it is not real good for this. That
would have been the first clue.
You can set the names of the icons to whatever you want. The
program that it runs is EXPLORER.EXE. "My Computer" isn't the name
of the program, it's the location you see when you run the program.
The "Network Neighborhood" icon runs pretty much the same thing -
it just shows you a different place when you start it. For that
matter, so does the "Recycle Bin" and "My Briefcase" (if you have that).
They all are just Explorer showing you different locations.
It is also called "Explorer" in various bits of documentation and the
various help sources (i.e. (also not IE) the help on the computer and
the MS web site).
When you use a command in DCL what is the name of the program
that is run? Yes, we both know this is a trick question. In general,
most people neither know or care. With Explorer it is similar except
that the name crops up in various places - in addition to the help,
in versions of Windows with the task manager the executable names
are shown on the "Processes" display and the one that this is is
EXPLORER.EXE, although determining this is not so easy since there
is always an EXPLORER.EXE running. Why? Because this program is the
program that displays the icons and menubar on your desktop and the
window that pops up when you double click "My Computer" (or right click
and pick "Explore" off the menu) is just an interface that is connected
with that process that is always running. When you do that it looks
like a new program is running, which is normally done in a new process,
but there is no additional process added to the list of processes shown
by the task manager. So it seems that what you have done when activating
the icon is actually just signalled the already running process to open
that window. Note: I assume this is similar to how it works on W98, I
don't have one to check. This is how it works on NT - or at least how
it appears to work: each such window that is open increases the thread
count of the EXPLORER.EXE process by one. I have no idea how W98 does
what looks like the same thing - does it even do threaded processes?
I don't remember.
There is, of course, the question of why you are still on Windows 98 -
NT V4 was better, 2000 was even better than that, and in many respects XP
is even better that that. The two main (sensible) reasons for not upgrading
(and it really is an upgrade) are the cost and having hardware that is
insufficient to run the newer versions. If the person having problems with
the digital camera were using 2000 or XP this whole topic wouldn't have
come up since he could have just pluged it in an and it would work (well,
installing the camera specific driver and rebooting might have been
necessary). USB support in W98 is not incredibly good (actually, I thought
you needed Windows 98SE to get even that level of usefulness), which is
probably part of the problem. NT doesn't support USB at all, which was
definatately part of the problem (and apparently the whole reason for having
to do the whole fiasco - wasn't the desired ultimate destination a PC
running NT?). W2000 does support USB, as does XP. I run W2000 at home
and it communicates with my digital camera via USB just fine - plug the
cable into the camera and PC, switch the camera to USB communication mode,
transfer the data from the new drive that appeared on the PC to the hard
drive, click the "removeable device" icon and shut down the device, turn
off camera, unplug camera, go take more pictures or whatever. It might
be even easier on XP - they may have removed the manual device shutdown
step (supposedly needed on W2000 to insure your data integrity and/or
system stability, although my camera has timed out after a period of
non-use of the connection and closed the connection a few times and it
has never actually hurt anything).
--- Carl
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