Re: Process's PreciseMail AntiSpam Gateway - any experience so far ?

From: David Froble (davef_at_tsoft-inc.com)
Date: 09/26/03


Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:45:44 -0400

Bob Ceculski wrote:

> usenet_vms@lehrerfamily.com (Joshua Lehrer) wrote in message news:<477e0934.0309230702.2874cf3b@posting.google.com>...
>
>>JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in message news:<3F6FDA1B.359A6B91@istop.com>...
>>
>>>Another issue is that of viruses. It would be best to simply educate everyone
>>>to simply avoid anything microsoft. But if that won't happen, there isn't much
>>>to be done to prevent viri since microsoft is such an easy target.
>>>
>>
>>Not a solution. Most OS'es have holes. The virus writers target
>>whatever the mainstream OS is because that is how they get the highest
>>infection rate. If we all switched over to Apple instead, then the
>>virus writers would target MacOS and poke holes all over that.
>>
>>This isn't MSFT's fault.
>>
>>-josh
>>
>
> yes it is Micro$ofts fault! Instead of trying to steal mica code they
> should have bought vms and threw out dos and ran windows on top of
> VMS ... now there would have been a platform ... VMS has few if any
> holes to poke ... 25 years have proven that and defcon9 reinforced it!
>

If VMS sources were given to some hackers who were instructed to put in the
fancy stuff, not to worry about securuty, and paid only for what was desired,
the result would be the same as MS is today.

It's not the OS, it's the concept. VMS gets bought for lots of reasons, but the
fancy MS auto-execution of stuff that makes their systems seem so great to the
casual user isn't one of them. I'd suggest you compare VMS sales to windoz
sales and then determine what the casual user will buy.

Why should MS spend any resources on security? Why should MS spend any
resources on quality? Why should MS spend any resources on anything but what
the majority of purchasers will buy? My only surprise is that they aren't the
leading anti-virus vendor. They missed an opportunity there.

Dave

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