Re: OpenVMS I64 ISV application count now over 500

From: John Smith (a_at_nonymous.com)
Date: 10/29/03


Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 03:23:59 GMT

jlsue wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:14:53 GMT, "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Great flashing and waving of porcupine quills when HP is criticized
>> or when it is suggested that HP is 'economical with the truth'.
>
> More likely, just bored with this newsgroup's noise ratio being too
> high. Especially when you just don't know the truth, only the
> publically released parts.
>
> The point is, decisions have been made and the company is going
> forward with those decisions. How successful it will be has yet to
> be determined.

Let's see...

Plan of Record...
Committment...
Roadmap...

all these things which were made public by HP were used by customers in
their planning and purchasing decisions. To those who made purchasing
Alpha's based on HP's Plan of Record and its (dare I say) solemn committment
to Alpha/VMS customers and Alpha/Tru64 customers, should we now say that HP
cannot be trusted, that HP deserves to be punished in a court of law for
deceptive and misleading sales practices? I'm sure that some customers feel
that way.

Now to be fair, it's not often that companies (or people for that matter)
tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. The reality is
that the usual state of affairs is that the truth is told, but only insofar
as 70% of the whole story is told. From where you sit it may be that you are
convinced that your employer is lily-white, having never mis-spoken to
customer and is adhering *faithfully* to the commitments it made to its
customers. Equally there are those who feel that this is not the case.

It's a funny thing to see....people who were at one time the most ardent
defenders of their employers changing their tune once the pink slip arrives,
and far too late for things they once believed in.

Not to pick on any HP employee, there have been some simple questions asked
in c.o.v. about what your immediate managers say about the lack of promotion
of VMS in the marketplace. Surely this subject come up around the water
cooler and in the cafeteria, however the silence here from HP employees is
deafening. But I can understand that...after all this is a public forum, and
management might be watching - and probably is.

Each bone-head decision or inaction of HP's with respect to VMS makes it
more and more politically difficult for me to take the risk in recommending
VMS on any platform even if VMS suits the project better, and no matter how
much I personally believe that the efforts of you and your colleagues are
first-rate. Perception *IS* reality, and for a very large number of us who
write here, and for a large number who merely lurk, that perception of HP's
actions is negative. Despite all the financial difficulties that Sun is in,
Sparc/Solaris is a much more politically viable choice for me to recommend
to my customer for a $20MM project. You say "How successful it will be has
yet to be determined." - with fewer and fewer $20MM projects coming VMS's
way, I'd say the future is inevitably bleak.



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