Re: Sun to use AMD Opteron - announcement expected Monday
From: mist dragon (mistdragon_at_zdnetonebox.com)
Date: 11/18/03
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Date: 17 Nov 2003 21:57:14 -0800
"Fred Kleinsorge" <my-last-name@stardotzko.dec.com> wrote in message news:<1t8ub.9136$LB4.4405@news.cpqcorp.net>...
> Just waiting for the shoe to drop. I expect that once they have a 64-bit
> Solaris, they will announce plans to build enterprise scale AMD64 servers
> and the end of Sparc (they will give Sparc to Fujitsu).
>
> Actually it's what I said I would do if I were in their position. Is it too
> little too late (I expect that a hardware transition like that will take 2-3
> years)? Time will tell, but it does make things interesting.
You are forgetting that they already have Solaris on X86-32. Porting
an existing o/s to same basic architecture is not as difficult than
porting to totally different architecture (Alpha>Itanium). And that
Solaris already runs on x86-64, albeit in 32 bit mode.
Whether this is too late is another question - Sun is in similar
position as Dec was - continue to invest on own technology, going to
niche or go to mainstream. Sun chose mature solution, AMD already has
proven to be faster than Intel and it has 64 bit when Intel says 'that
no-one wants 64 bit' :) I am sure they have Solaris running on x86-64
behind the scenes - remember how IBM told that they ported DB2 in 2
weeks to 64bit AMD.
Otoh, Dec was never mainstream - when they made PC (rainbow, was it -
names slip from my mind) on past, they were not mainstream-compatible
and it was never a success. Then they stuck on their own stuff until
it dragged the company to its knees and what remained, was sold to
Compaq. The mistake Compaq made was to hold on to Dec and trying to
become a new Dec when the game was already lost for Dec. As a way to
get out, they put their eggs on Itanium basket and when it did not
become success, they too were dragged on their knees. And.
Subsequently they were sold to HP, that has now dropped all that Dec
was, but VMS to Itanium port.
That, too, will be overrun by the mainstream market on x86-64 bit.
Where Dec failed, Sun will blossom because it waited for the market to
prove itself before it made its move.
MD
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