Re: It is almost certain now, INTEL will have 64bit x86 !!
From: Robert Klute (robert_klute_removethis_at_hp.com)
Date: 02/24/04
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 20:21:02 GMT
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 18:24:06 +0000, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy
<Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> wrote:
>But since this point is demonstrably untrue it seems pointless
>to have made it.
>
>Solaris 2.6 is a 32bit OS that does not stop it making use of the
>64 CPU's in a Sun E10000, Dynix was a 32bit OS that did not
>stop it using the 64 CPU's in the Sequent NUMA-Q box.
>
>3.75 GB for a single process may be a problem for some applications
>it is not for most. ...
For 32-bit Windows boxes it is a problem.
>>>You seem to have lost the plot, the 1-8 way market is where most server
>>>revenues are and except in HPC people do not cluster commodity servers
>>>in any large quantities to get additional throughput. They buy bigger
>>>SMP servers instead because they cost less when you add in the
>>>cluster interconnect, SAN and cluster SW/DBMS costs.
>>
>>
>> That's what I have been saying all along. Thank you for agreeing with
>> me.
>>
>
>You seem to have missed the point, no one is interested in very large
>Linux boxes or very large Windows boxes and they are also not going
>to create clusters these smaller systems running either OS to try
>to acheive the same effect.
That's not been my experience. I find businesses that have settled on
Windows or Linux as their primary OS are interested in very large boxes.
>> The large SQL Server market does exist. HP is happily selling Integrity
>> servers running Windows to customers.
>
>Hardly, most of the Integrity SuperDomes are running HP-UX and while
>there may be very small numbers of customers running instances of
>SQL-Server on them using Windows 2003 they hardly create a blip on
>anything other than a marketeers radar.
Since Sun has sold very few Opteron boxes, to date, can I assume that
the V20z addresses a market that simply does not exist for Sun and that
the box is nothing more than a marketeer's ploy?
>Many people armed with P&L numbers have asked why HP bothers
>making anything other than printers including the families
>of your co-founders, the same question is being asked about
>Intel and Itanium.
Armed with P&L numbers, one has to ask why Sun bothers staying in
business? It has had negative net earnings for the last 3 quarters
straight and for 9 out of the last 11 quarters. Just so we understand
the magnitude of its losses, it has reported a total of $65M earnings in
the positive quarters and $4.58B in losses in the negative quarters
during the last 11 quarters.
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