Re: HP World Magazine: For Business Continuity...the answer may be OpenVMS
From: Andrew Harrison (andrew_._remove_harrison_at_su_n.com)
Date: 05/12/04
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Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 15:44:22 +0100
Robert Deininger wrote:
> In article <d8ece8766feb0230d57ad42fe1bde30b@news.teranews.com>, JF Mezei
> <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Robert Deininger wrote:
>>
>>>The components used in a DS10 probably haven't gotten much cheaper, and
>>>DS15 is in the same ballpark. I think $6-$7k is too expensive for VMS
>>>entry level.
>>
>>>Obviously, HP has some flexibility in pricing. But they can build an
>>>rx1600 for far less than a DS15,
>>
>>
>>Ok, please explain why a DS10 would have to be more expensive to HP than an
>>itanium equivalent.
>
>
> I don't know exactly _why_, but it is the case. Digital built good
> systems, but they were not very good at controlling costs. Compaq didn't
> really change the alphaserver HW business. HP HW groups seem to be better
> at designing and building systems at lower cost. That is reflected in the
> selling prices.
>
There is no reason why the DS15 could not be produced at a
competitive price to the rx1600. Sun's pricing of the Sun
V210/V240 show that it is perfectly possible to build and
non "commodity" server to a similar price point as
commodity x86 systems.
> I happened to know the approximate cost to manufacture DS15 when it was
> released. There isn't all that much profit in the sale of these systems.
> I strongly suspect DS15 costs more to manufacture than the list selling
> price of rx1600.
>
Thats not really the right answer, DS15 margins may well be low
but that doesn't mean that they ave to be it just means you hvae
to work a bit harder at designing cost out of the system and
improving your manufacturing process.
Regards
Andrew Harrison
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