Re: T4 and friends
From: Michael Austin (maustin_at_firstdbasource.com)
Date: 06/03/04
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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 13:06:34 GMT
David J Dachtera wrote:
> Michael Austin wrote:
<bunch of stuff snipped>
> If you *MUST* use GUI-based solutions, you *MUST* provide for RPCs that
> can be trigered from a batch job on the VMS side (RSHELL?) so that the
> product will run entirely automated, including printing.
>
> Again, I don't have hours a day, everyday to point-and-click my way to
> performance reports that would be more valuable automated.
Neither do I...
>
> Anyone out there who DOES have that kind of time *EVERY* *DAY*, feel
> free to say, "You're wrong DJ" - or be prepared to share your solutions
> with the VMS community at-large.
You're wrong DJ.. :) :) well... you do have *some* good points... I
don't know about everyoneelse, but I try to never print anything needed
once or twice that I can have a computer put on a screen - and then
everyone can see it for themselves without having to walk down to the
wall of graphs (I have seen some of these...) No, I am not a tree
hugger, but let's face it, if we automated every print job, most of the
graphs would end up in a shredder or landfill or possibly recycled. And
for what? To walk by and pick it up off the printer, look at -- maybe
analyze it and toss it? I look at the graphs I want to look at and only
when I need to look at them. Some of the T4 stuff guys like me and JF
are working on will give us the ability to make a few clicks and have a
trended graph show up on the screen - not just yesterday. If I need to
print it. click and it's done.
I can tell you lots of stories about full boxes of printed reports and
graphs being tossed and how the reports were still generated, but only
viewed with a browser.. (and that was on a VAX running 5.5-1H1 and one
of the original CERN web servers...) Or how the same principles were
used to make it easier for one company to search and view only portions
of 43,000 reports they received every month. Can you imagine in both
cases, how much they save by not having to print the reports???
Being able to trend T4 is just around the corner... developing
replacements for stuff that should have never been sold off -- and is
now 3x the cost -- is in progress, but time-consuming. Hey, we're
working on it :)
BTW... Can you imagine the number of graphs I would have to review in a
data center of 200+ Alpha servers -- not just a few....
Michael Austin
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> D.J.D.
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