Re: "Oracle RDB" licensing question

From: Neil Rieck (n.rieck_at_sympatico.ca)
Date: 09/26/04

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    "Keith Cayemberg" <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de> wrote in message
    news:4156afa6$0$18564$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net...
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    >
    > Kerry is correct in stating that Rdb licencing is the same as Oracle
    > (Classic) Enterprise Edition without the Clustering (RAC), Partitioning
    > and Security Options. Since Rdb generally already comes with these
    > capabilities (and more) built-in, Rdb is actually allowed a considerable
    > price advantage over Oracle's bread-and-butter product. This advantage
    > becomes even more clear when considering the long list of original Rdb
    > technical features and design advantages for massive mission-critical
    > systems, compatibility to most Oracle Tools, along with Rdb's high level
    > of integration with OpenVMS architecture and feature advantages.
    >
    > That being said, the complete picture explaining the licensing of Rdb has
    > not yet been explained here. The Licensing form also depends on the
    > software environment in which the database is installed. And within
    > defined limits you can decide between two different Licensing Metrics;
    > Named User Plus Licensing or Per-Processor Licensing.
    >
    > This is all explained in the document titled "Database Licensing" at...
    >
    > http://www.oracle.com/corporate/pricing/databaselicensing.pdf
    >
    > Also, If you qualify for the OTN Development License then you can install
    > and use all the Rdb Family products for *free*. Here...
    >
    > http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/index.html
    >
    > you can see the following statement...
    >
    > "All software downloads are free, and each comes with a development
    > license that allows you to use full versions of the products only
    > while developing and prototyping your applications. You can buy
    > Oracle products with full-use licenses at any time from the online
    > Oracle Store or from your Oracle sales representative."
    >
    > This is a separate license with it's own conditions explained here...
    >
    > http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/htdocs/devlic.html
    >
    > The latest Rdb Family products can be downloaded here...
    >
    > http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/rdb7/index.html
    >
    > Remember, when reading, that Rdb qualifies as an Oracle "Enterprise
    > Edition" Product for licensing.
    >
    > When Licensing using the Per-Processor Metric, you can also limit the
    > number of processors to license with hard partitioning. The conditions for
    > this are explained in the document titled "Partitioning" at...
    >
    > http://www.oracle.com/corporate/pricing/partitioning.pdf
    >
    > The current price list (last updated Sept. 17th) for Oracle's Database
    > products is here...
    >
    > http://www.oracle.com/corporate/pricing/eplext.pdf
    >
    > There you will find the following prices in US Dollars for Rdb
    > on page 4...
    >
    > Named User Plus (price per user)
    >
    > (Version)
    > License Update Support
    > 800 120.00 56.00
    >
    > Per-Processor
    > (Version)
    > License Update Support
    > 40,000 6,000.00 2,800.00
    >
    > "5-Year Term License available at 70% of Perpetual License; 4-Year Term
    > License at 60% of Perpetual License; 3-Year Term License at 50% of
    > Perpetual License; 2-Year Term License at 35% of Perpetual License; 1-Year
    > Term License at 20% of Perpetual"
    >
    > Named User I understand to be a license tied to a specific named user and
    > not a "concurrent user license". There is also some minimum user
    > constraints for using this metric, please see the "Database Licensing"
    > document for details. I also believe that the version update price drops
    > out if you have a currently active "metals" grade support contract for
    > that installation with Oracle.
    >
    > If you still have questions and want an Oracle Representative that
    > understands Rdb Licensing, or want to complain that their licensing model
    > doesn't make it possible for you to select Rdb products, I suggest you
    > make use of the contact information here...
    >
    > http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/rdb/Contacts/index.html
    >
    > I'm sure that Mike Turnill or Bill Gettys can help you, or find some one
    > who can work-out the issues with you.
    >
    > By the way, the official Rdb Forum is not on Usenet but is provided by
    > JCC. See the following URL for details...
    >
    > http://www.jcc.com/jccs_oracle_list_servers.htm
    >
    > Cheers!
    >
    > Keith Cayemberg
    >
    > Disclaimer: I'm just an Rdb Customer who thinks he's understood most of
    > Oracle Rdb Licensing. Go to Oracle for contractually coherent Rdb
    > financial transactions. :-)
    >

    Thanks for your detailed reply regarding this matter.
    I was hoping for such a response from a knowledgeable licensee because I was
    getting no where with Oracle Sales. Thanks again.

    Neil Rieck
    Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,
    Ontario, Canada.
    http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html

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