Re: Solaris 10 - no charge for o/s
From: David J Dachtera (djesys.nospam_at_comcast.net)
Date: 11/18/04
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 20:54:20 -0600
John Smith wrote:
>
> Marty Kuhrt wrote:
> > In article <41996326.6E70976C@comcast.net>, David J Dachtera
> > <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes:
> >> Bob Koehler wrote:
> >>>
> >>> In article <76adnTV1eMeTMAXcRVn-gg@igs.net>, "John Smith"
> >>> <a@nonymous.com> writes:
> >>>>
> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=738&e=1&u=/ap/20041115/ap_o
> >>>> n_hi_te/sun_solaris10
> >>>>
> >>>> Sun to Give Out Operating System for Free
> >>>
> >>> Sun is going to get what it's worth.
> >>
> >> Perhaps, but the principle isn't really that goofy: give away the
> >> product, and sell the support (say, "Linux"). Support is an expense.
> >> Software licenses are a capital expenditure (asset).
> >>
> >> See, unlike certain folks we won't mention in this post (since we
> >> beat them bloody all too often in other posts), Sun understands that
> >> nobody gives a <censored> about TCO if the "sticker shock" of the
> >> "cost-to-acquire" keeps the product locked out of customer sites.
> >>
> >> "What it's worth" rather depends on one's point of view:
> >>
> >> o Is it "worth it" to pick up a (relative) freebie and negotiate with
> >> the bean counters for support dollars?
> >>
> >> o Is it "worth it" to beat the bean counters into submission for
> >> capital dollars and then extort support money out of them with the
> >> promise not to beat them up for capital dollars again (until the
> >> next time you have to actually "buy" an upgrade, of course)?
> >
> > What happened at my former company was that putting in Dell servers
> > running M$lop was done because it was cheaper. Then they had to add
> > more servers because doing multiple functions on one server was too
> > taxing. Then they had to add more servers because performance scaling
> > wasn't going as planned. Then they had to add licenses for various
> > tools they needed to backup these machines and put databases and other
> > stuff on them (multiplied by the number of servers). Then they had to
> > get twice as many servers as were in place at that time to put in a
> > different location to have some sort of disaster tolerance. Then they
> > had to buy expensive disk farms with replication software and database
> > replication software to make the DT possible. OOooops, have to add
> > all
> > sorts of virus checking software, too. And make sure that you do a
> > daily patch check, install, and reboot. And so forth, and so on...
> >
> > It got to the point where they spent about 10x the amount of doing it
> > with a VMScluster solution. By then they'd expended too much to
> > reverse course.
>
> There is no advertising by HP which to explain this common situation to
> CEO's. HP would make more money selling an Alpha/VMS solution to a company
> than they would on a shipload of PC's from Taiwan, yet I don't have to tell
> you what HP does.
>
> CEO's watch the World Series, the Super Bowl, the PGA tour, etc... some even
> watch business programs like Bloomberg TV or political shows.
>
> HP does nothing. No wonder Alpha sales are down.
Well, *ALPHA* sales are down because it was killed in its prime.
VMS sales are down due to (need I say it?) stealth marketing.
...and I'm kinda disappointed you didn't offer a 30-second commercial
script siezing upon the opportunity to illustrate *WHY* TCO matters and
how to get the bean counters past the sticker shock of the
cost-to-acquire.
-- David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems http://www.djesys.com/ Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/ Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/ Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/
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