Re: Time to revive Emerald?
From: Roger Ivie (rivie_at_ridgenet.net)
Date: 12/20/04
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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 04:50:48 GMT
On 2004-12-20, Neil Rieck <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> VAX extends the -11 virtual address from 16 bits to 32 bits. Thus, it's
>> a Virtual Address Extension by way of making the virtual addresses
>> bigger, *not* by way of adding virtual addresses where there weren't any
>> before.
>>
> Not to belabour the point, but "virtual memory" really means memory which
> would exist in RAM if you had a sufficient amount, but is currently out on
> the disk because you didn't.
Let me tell you, a PDP-8/e (max 32Kw) running twelve users under ETOS
(each with an OS/8 session requiring at least 8Kw apiece) made plenty of use
of "virtual memory" by your definition. That RK05 could get thrashing
something fierce. Twelve users was the limit, though; the one time I
managed to get a 13th user logged in the system gave up and never left
the idle loop.
And I presume you're not willing to accept the swapping done by Unix on
a PDP-11 as "virtual memory"? (in 6th edition Unix, a fork consisted
essentially of swapping the process out to disk and then "forgetting"
to delete the in-core copy)
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