Re: What's the state of USB 2.0 support in VMS 8.2?

From: John Smith (a_at_nonymous.com)
Date: 12/31/04


Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 08:36:28 -0500

FredK wrote:
> We're working on it.
>
> In fact, internally we've booted a rx2600 from a 2.5G Seagate pocket
> drive.
>
> 1) No (sorry JF) you will not see it on VAX.
> 2) You will not see booting from USB on Alpha.
> 3) Actual "support" for a USB HD as a system disk may never happen on
> IPF. The true reason for supporting USB disks is to plan for the
> future where DVD/CD drives are USB based (this looks like a trend to
> replace IDE for such devices).

As I mentioned earlier, it would be at least useful for 'smaller' VMS
customers to be able to 'image' their system disk to an external
USB/Firewire drive and lock it in a vault, and them be able - in the
instance of a fried system disk - to be able to 'restore' that image onto a
new SCSI system disk from the boot prompt once the new Dk or whatever device
type the Itanic recognizes the scsi drive to be.

Might even be a decent way to 'archive' working point releases of a system
disk, ie. one or more images/savesets might be able to be stored on the
external drive...at boot with the external drive, the system manager might
be presented with a list of options...
1) boot from [device],
or
2a) restore from [device]
2b) list of [image/saveset names] read from device in 2a)
2c) to [device] ....followed by reboot when restore is complete

> 4) The important thing that needs to be finished is USB 2.0 so that
> the speed is reasonable (although even 1.0 is about as fast as the
> crummy IDE stuff).
>
> For those Alpha hobbyists out there who go to V8.2... I've found that
> WalMart carries a twenty dollar 5 port USB PCI card from Belkin that
> has a NEC USB controller on it that is compatible with the chip used
> on Itanium servers - I use this on my DS10.
>
> In terms of USB vs Firewire. USB is less of a "crummy Wintel
> standard" than it is an example of design by committee. It has some
> good points, and a bunch of "tear your hair out" points. It has and
> will continue to dominate FireWire simply on the basis that it is
> part of the core logic for every PC.

Not if Apple makes an offer to buy the ESG from HP :-)



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