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From: JF Mezei (jfmezei.spamnot_at_teksavvy.com)
Date: 06/24/05


Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:05:46 -0400

Dave Froble wrote:
> So what does any of this have to do with proving there is a god? Even
> if these things all happened, there are multiple possible explanations.

Faith, is by definition, believing in something which you can't prove or explain.

The point is that as human science progresses, more and more of the
bible can be explained scientifically, and a lot of what used to be
miracles are now routinely done in Hollywood in a very convincing
fashion and would never have been seen as "tricks" by people 2005 years
ago, to them, it would have seen like a miracle.

It may end up that the stories in the bible related to some advanced
space aliens visiting earth to monitor our progress and make some
impressive light shows to impress people. (aka : miracles). (Or worse,
humans in a distant futuire who have mastered time travel and gone back
to year 0 to inseminate Mary and then supervise Jesus's life and fix his
wounds after he was crucified and healed him sufficiently to be seen
alive a few days later).

Lets say that science can one day prove that earth was visited by
advanced alien civilisation whose technoogy explains all of the miracles
in the bible. Lets say that it was such an advanced civilisation which
meddled with a primordial earth to foster the creation of cell organisms
(eg: created life on earth). This may explain our existance, and may
scientifically explain all of the bible. But that does not explain where
those space aliens came from and who created them. (and who created the
creator and so on, and so on and so on...).

Similarly, we may be able to fully describe the big bang theory down to
the microsecond it happened. But we still can't truly grasp the concept
of an universe without any bounds either in space or time, and we can't
explain what triggered the big bang and what existed before that and who
created that matter and/or energy.

As long as there are things about our existance/roots which are not yet
explained, there is room for faith. But religions must evolve with time
and with scientific progress. We can't allow a whole nation/religion to
revert to believing that thunder is god's anger , or decide that
"evolution" is not to be discussed in schools because the bible says
"creation" (especially when the two are not necessarily incompatible).

Politicians who, wanting to appear to be religious, pass laws forbidding
the discussion of "evolution" in schools are akin to those who called
for the hanging of people who claimed the earth was round or that the
sun did not rotate around the earth, but rather the other way around.



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