Re: Hp Technology forum (New Orleans sept 12-15)

From: AEF (spamsink2001_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 09/03/05 

Date: 2 Sep 2005 21:23:07 -0700

JF Mezei wrote:
> Alan Greig wrote:
> > I don't believe it was that way. New Orleans and the Federal Government
> > pretty much *knew* they were heading to near certain disaster 24 hours
> > before the storm hit.
>
> The world knew. But I don't think that things were set in motion at the
> political level to get people/infrastructure going ASAP to be ready to
> intervene right away.

Yes, it appears to be that way.

> > You haven't been watching him on tv every night. I have. Miracles of the
> > web. He's been on-top of it but resources never arrived.
>
> Still not convinced. Consider how the mayor handled the evacuation, not
> fighting to get airport, train and bus services running to help with
> evacuation.

Uh, if you're still comparing him to Giuliani, what did he do to aid
any evacuation? The subways were ordered to stop. Period. There was no
power for them in Lower Manhattan anyway, thru which the vast majority
of them pass. People -- and I was one of them -- walked out of the city
and/or took ferries. These were people at work trying to get home. In
NO you have people trapped by flood waters on the roofs of their homes
trying to get out, but have no home to go to once they get out, if they
get out.

THESE SITUATIONS ARE NOT COMPARABLE. HELLOOOOOOO!!!!!

Many people could walk to working transportation on 9/11. People in New
Orleans are trapped on their roofs or fighting each other for food and
water.

> If he was given access to the media, how come he forgot to
> mention the convention centre ?

And just how is he going to get all these things running when they're
covered by feet of water that came from levees that broke? Do you
expect his police to swim to the levees with sandbags on their backs?
And then start removing the water with a bucket brigade? You may as
well criticize Giuliani for not preventing the planes from hitting the
buildings.

You can make the case that NO and the Feds were not prepared for this.
But is anyone anywhere well prepared for events like this that only
happen maybe once every 40 years? Was NYC, Washington, or the U.S.
prepared for 9/11?

> I hear him complaining about lack of services, calling an "SOS". But i
> don't hear him leading. I hear him calling for total evacuation, I don't
> hear him leading the peoiple who have remained and giving them
> information on what works and what doesn't work in the city.

I thought pretty much nothing was working.

> Perhaps I am getting a squewed picture filtered by the media.

You conclude a lot based on very little, as usual. The entire city is
simply completely overwhelmed. They couldn't even pick up the dead
because that would have impeded the rescue of the living!

[BTW, your spelling of skewed is pretty skewed!]

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