Re: Why did VMS users go along with the itanium farce?

From: AEF (spamsink2001_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 09/30/05


Date: 30 Sep 2005 06:45:54 -0700


Bill Todd wrote:
> Main, Kerry wrote:
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com]
> >>Sent: September 29, 2005 3:03 PM
> >>To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com
> >>Subject: Re: Why did VMS users go along with the itanium farce?
> >>
> >>"Main, Kerry" wrote:
> >>
> >>>1. Although it would be nice, Itanium does not need to be
> >>
> >>the leader in
> >>
> >>>latest speeds-n-feeds in order to be successful. It just
> >>
> >>needs to be
> >>
> >>>competitive. Heck, Sun has proven that over the years and as slow as
> >>>SPARC was,
> >>
> >>
> >>There is a big difference here. SPARC was succesfull, considered the
> >>"industry standard" for Unix and was widely regarded as a
> >>safe platform.
> >>
> >>IA64 has none of those attributes. It doesn't have an established user
> >>base, it is new and already talk of killing it because it just isn't
> >>what it promised it would be. And more importantly, HP and Intel have
> >>already started to cannabalise it by limiting its market niche to
> >>supercomputers, and then there is the writing on the wall with the 64
> >>bit 8086 which Intel swore woudl never happen, coming to
> >>further reduce
> >>IA64's remaining niche.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Wow, where have you been getting this stuff?
>
> I'll answer that question just to keep you honest, Kerry - though that's
> always a difficult task.
>
> "There is a big difference here" indeed, and he goes on to explain it,
> point by point:
>
> "SPARC was successful" - very much so, to the point that it established
> a loyal user base large enough to have weathered years of sub-par
> performance and still remain the largest single Unix customer base.

Uh, Kerry also said that SPARC was successful. He also said that it was
successful despite its sub-par performance. So where's the big
difference?

The three of you disagree to agree! Nice. We're making real progress
here. ;-)
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